for the second time in 3 months and the 3rd time this year rain has cut the North East off from the rest of the country yet again.

The A1, A19 and A167 shut so no way to go Noryth to Souuth and vice versa. Then most of the cross country roads also cut.

I have lived up here for 30 years and have never known this to happen before.

Apparently it is is once in a 100 year event.

With it happening 3 times this year does that make it a once in every 33 year event.

I just cannot get my head around the fact that for the sake of a 10 yard stretch of road which regularly floods it just causes absolute chaos.

Routes to the North East of the country are running just fine my little Englander friend...

Here we go again

16:24:19 359.1 International Produce Normanton Departed on FOXBRIDGE WAY

19:26:36 456.2 A1 TYNE AND WEAR NE13 7BW

Trains running OK to the north east, just come up from Brum to Leeds on the x-Country Glasgow train, someone in the seat across the aisle asked the ticket inspector if it was true that they were terminating at Darlington but his answer was that they were scheduled to go up the East Coast line to Edinburgh and then Glasgow and that was still OK.

On the way down this morning there was no services south of Bristol though

So i must have imagined it when i was driving on the A690 today over a closed A19 whilst listening to the radio that said the A1 was shut at Catterick and was shut north of Newcastle. To then be turned off the A690 because it was shut before working my way through Houghton Le Spring to the A 167 going towards Durham to be turned off because the A167 was shut

That wooosh wasn't an RAF pilot on training...

the poor north east.
we ve had a bit of drizzle down here too the last week or so!!!!

You should have started a thread then to tell us about it then.


However as there is only one proper road in rural Cornwall it hardly compares with an industrialised NE which relies on it's road infrastructure to get it's workforce to all the call centres and Civil service centres they work in.

why??
it rains in the uk , places get flooded.thats life.
in the next few weeks i reckon it might snow somewhere in the uk and places will be cut off.hopefully it wont be durhamshire(yes i know it doesnt exist) as it wont be fair on the people being cut off yet again as they are the only people who have suffered so far!!!

im getting so cynical in my old age!!

To be fair, it has been unusual.
I'm wondering if this is what we'll be seeing in coming years as well and, if so, what we need to be doing now to mitigate it.
e.g. New and bigger drains? Embanking rivers in populated areas? Slowing the run-off with planting at high levels, stopping peat and heather burning? Moving to the hills?

It's the future. Once the ice caps go and the sea level rises, you'll all have to swim ashore and live on the coast in Birmingham.



The Costa Del Salford is going to be the place to be in 15 years. Beach front apartments will go for millions.

That is my concern everything i have seen and read suggests that we will be getting more rain on a regular basis. If the North East shuts down every time it rains we are knackered. The A19 is still shut today. Imagine if the M62 was shut every time it rains heavily

There needs to be some planning to deal with this BUT it will need funding.

Newcastle City Council gets about £500,000 a year to look after its culverts which criss cross the city that is not even enough for them to survey the culverts let alone repair them

I like that Map. They should use that when handing out franchises as it looks to me like Wire, Widnes and Saints as well as both Hull clubs will be having to play Underwater Rugby whilst the pennine towns will be able to carry on in SL.

Also has Alex Salmond seen it. He could be selling off bits of Scotland and making a fortune, imagine the slogan,
" come to the highlands where you can drive to work rather than have to swim"

No, becuase they are indepenent of each other, based on historical rainfall its been calaculated that each event (assuming your figures are correct) has a 1% chance of occouring per year, the fact there have been 3 in the space of a few months, if anything makes it a "rarer" event (statisticaly speaking).

Also, the consistently heavy rainfall has saturated the ground and raised the water tables, leading to more runoff over the surface, which in turn has caused the water levels in watecourses/ditches to rise.

Sustainable drainage, source control, mimic natural processes. Design new development to flood in places, channel the flow between buildings by working with the topography.

Bigger pipes and higher walls won't solve anything long term.

Also new developments to be built out of flood plains (hard luck if you want a river view, or if you do don't whine when you can't get insurance and you have 2' of water in your front room), make them flood resistant.

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17690389Drought will last 'til Christmas[/url

Holderness and the area to the East of Hull is pretty much one ferking big flood plain but it is criss-crossed with canal-like land drains and used to cope pretty damn well. The EA has seen its budget slashed and British Waterways was deemed a QUANGO too far, so instead of Owen Paterson crowing about the number of homes saved from flooding, while strangely enough managing to blame Labour for the economic mess. Perhaps he should think about how many more homes could have been saved and how much lower the insurance bills could be, if his coalition chums hadn't thought "bugger them, my home's dry".

It seems we may be following something of a pattern and perhaps we may even start to see paddy fields being planted with rice instead of grains and oilseed rape

So, tell me again about there being no such thing as 'Global Warming', and how it's just a conspiracy to get us all to pay more tax?

I don't understand all the fuss with this flooding malarky - Surely we just do the opposite of what they reccommend during one of our 'droughts'??

Encourage everybody to take baths, wash our cars daily, flush the toilet at least 3 times after a dump, leave taps running....If we can waste water and make it disappear so easily during a hosepipe ban, then we can do the same now during a particularly wet spell?

Genius!

Aye, we could all row dinghies into our bathrooms to turn all the taps on.

It is currently sunny in the East Riding shire.
Globular warming, I tell thee.