Do you think it ought to go to Maggie? www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... aggie.html

Do you think it ought to go to Maggie? www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... aggie.html

Oh Jesus. Let the sparks fly.

I don't think it should go to an institution whether the institution is the EU or not. Seems a bit daft to me and not what the prize was intended for.

However doesn't everyone know that a big reason the Common Market, (which evolved into the EEC and then the EU) was set up was the political desire to avoid another European war? No one can deny it has achieved that so I assume that is why it won the prize.

As I said though giving it to an institution of any kind doesn't seem right to me.

I'd have given it jointly to Blair and Bush for their War on Terror.

It,s going well.

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Sam Tomkins should be in the running, surely?

Probably too late for this year, but how about Malala Yousafzai, the 14-year-old Pakistani standing up for girls' education – and shot by the Taliban?

Split it between Thatcher, Blair and Bush.

NATO has had plenty to do with that particular achievement.

That would be a good idea and I only found out today she is being treated in Birmingham. I hope she recovers soon and is back to her usual self before the cowards shot her. She might be safer off here as I think the Taliban are going after her again.

Quote ="Dally"Do you think it ought to go to Maggie? www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... aggie.html'" No way in hell should that old witch get anything apart from being thrown to the wolves.

Quote ="Dally"Do you think it ought to go to Maggie? www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... aggie.html'" No way in hell should that old witch get anything apart from being thrown to the wolves.

Boris's writing is as confused as his hairdresser.

What's that to do with peace though? She wanted to be educated.

The eu has not been responsible for peace in Europe. The crushing of Nazi Germany, the rebuilding of Germany, its occupation and demilitarisaation have been responsible. For that uncle Sam and little old Britain are primarily to thank.

I think the EU can claim some credit for providing a framework through which disputes can be resolved through diplomacy and negotiation. Though I would actually say that Nazi Germany is more responsible than any other nation for bringing peace to Europe. The major European powers were exhausted and bankrupted by destroying Nazi Germany and meant they had to retreat as colonial powers. Thereby taking away the traditionally largest point of friction between the major European nations.
I'd also say that Russia should at least be mentioned when discussing the "crushing of Nazi Germany"

Hmmmm a choice between Hitler and Thatcher for a Nobel Peace Prize...

That doesn't alter the fact, as I said, a big reason the common market was set up was a political desire to avoid another European war. It never was just an economic trading block.

Don't be so ridiculous. Western occupation of Germany ended in the mid 1950's. Since then Britain and the USA have not been in the business of keeping the French and Germans from going to war again.

If Britain and the USA have been European peace keepers since then you had better tell the French who's idea it was to strengthen Franco-German cooperation with the specific aim banishing the threat of another war. It was Jean Monnet a French civil servant who came up with the idea in 1950 a mere five years after the WWII ended with that specific aim in mind and it is from there that the EEC evolved.

It is simply a fact that keeping the peace was the driving force behind the creation of the EEC and given there has not been a European war since then it certainly hasn't failed.

It's a great idea. "Winner, Nobel Peace Prize 2012" looks bloody great on my CV

Well the French were one of the 4 occupying powers. Funny that when I first visited Berlin, in 1979, I distinctly recall seeing many occupying troops some armed a ready to shoot.

I'm not sure what that has to do with what you said earlier ? You claimed that "no one can deny" that it is the EEC/EC/EU that has ensured peace inferring that this body was solely responsible for this feat. Which is, of course, not the case at all.