Terrorist apologist, try READING.

In small economies like those in Scandinavia that kind of policy is more easily adopted - their isn't a country in Europe the size of the UK economy that has that level of government intervention.

Dennis Skinner has been spouting the same rhetoric as Corbyn for as long as Corbyn does that make those policies more/less valid?

What this needs is wealth generators - and what Labour wanted to do is tax the wealth generators into oblivion - it is a policy bordering on Lunacy!!

He wants to tax corporations at rates that would still be lower than 2010 - and at a rate that would still be the lowest in the G7; how many times do I have to repeat this before you actually read and understand it?

With regard to personal taxation - almost half the electorate voted for him; I don't believe for a minute that every single one of them was a member of the undeserving poor. There are actually people who can see the bigger picture and are prepared to make personal sacrifices for the greater good - the idiots.

What is clear is that there is appetite for change - and as long as the Maybot maintains her position of squatting in no 10 and rotating the same bunch of idiots who helped create this mess, propped up by a soupcon of regressive Orangemen, change is what we will get.

So what you are saying is if you give the wealthy more money, they may throw some crumbs down to the working classes? I'd rather any government force them to pay their way then leave it up to the wealthy to do whats right for the people of this country

That's not what he his saying, it's your interpretation of that. Meanwhile unpalatable as it seems ,Labour failed to win enough seats to form a government. That's democracy. Just remember that labour fought an effective campaign against a shockingly poor Tory one. Highly unlikely that situation will be allowed again.
Whilst this side show of an election was unfolding ,the French and Germans reiterated the hard stance they will undertake in the brexit negotiations. We are in for some extremely turbulent times.

I know the election result and TBH as far as i'm concerned it could be the worse result for the economy. If TM had fought a better campaign then we wouldn't be still talking about it. However she didn't and we've just got to make the best of what we had. Just remember, it was the Tories who called the Brexit referendum so if negotiations go tits up then they are to blame, no one else. If only they listened to peoples concerns not only before this election but before the referendum instead of their rich pals.

It is like bashing your head against a brick wall. Why do you think they reduced CT and the top level of personal taxation? They did it to increase the tax take - which - as unpalatable as it is to you - did exactly what it was intended to do i.e. tax take went up.

Why do you think reversing that policy will yield the results you think - oh yes its because all these companies are suddenly going to turn altruistic - and get the bigger picture!! you are truly delusional.

Do you really think there is an appetite for change - students came out to vote for their own benefit not because they also got the bigger picture. No reduction in tuition fees no younger vote. They were just reacting to a bribe if the Tories had offered the same they would have got the vote.

Do you honestly think there is an appetite for re-nationalisation, support for terrorists, great power for unions, increased borrowing to increase the salaries of public servants - possibly from the unions and the public servants?

May was a disaster but it should be short term, she makes Osborne look like a political giant - if Corbyn got in the detrimental impact of his strategy could take decades to put right

Although it does seem bizarre, I agree with you on "tax take" as the exchequer did receive higher revenues on a lower top rate.
However, you then go on to mention "support for terrorists".

Why is it ok for Mrs May to make "an agreement" with the DUP but not ok for Corbyn to talk to some of the people that he has allegedly spoken to in the past.

The DUP seem little different to Sinn Fein and yet, they will now hold the balance of power.
It, quite simply, is not right.

The current set up is clearly not going to last and the sooner that Mrs May has the sense to realise this and either steps down or, better still, calls another GE, the better for all of us.

THe Brexit clock is ticking and Mrs "strong and stable" May is now putting her own personal situation above the needs of the country.

It really is.

For your delight and delectation, [url=https://www.ft.com/content/ca3e5bd2-2a7e-11e7-9ec8-168383da43b7?mhq5j=e3here are the facts,[/url which I know you're not a fan of; it's a rather more nuanced picture than you desperately try to portray.

With regard to overall tax take, it's fluctuated between 35-38% of GDP since 1997.

And just a note on the myth that Corbyn's plans would plunge us into crippling debt; [url=http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/03/13/the-conservatives-have-been-the-biggest-borrowers-over-the-last-70-years/this data[/url would suggest otherwise.

I can't even begin to address the irony of your stupid terrorist comment, other than to remind you that Mrs May is now a hostage to the DUP. The DUP who, according to Wikpedia:

"During the Troubles, the DUP opposed attempts to resolve the conflict that would involve sharing power with Irish nationalists/republicans, and rejected attempts to involve the Republic of Ireland in Northern Ireland affairs. It campaigned against the Sunningdale Agreement of 1974, the Anglo-Irish Agreement of 1985, and the Good Friday Agreement of 1998. In the 1980s, the party was involved in attempts to create a paramilitary movement, which culminated in Ulster Resistance."

And for good measure, is:

"...socially conservative: it is anti-abortion, opposes same-sex marriage, and formerly campaigned against the legalisation of homosexual acts in Northern Ireland."

The DUP ladies and gentlemen

[urlhttp://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2017/dup-man-celebrated-election-with-photo-of-terror-group-flag-in-downing-street-35814566.html[/url

In 2016/17 the tax receipts from CT was 56bn an increase of 21% on the previous year - does that suggest to you there is a link between falling rates and increased take or are you still in denial?

If you IFS they will say Corbyn's borrowing cannot be paid for by CT and taxing the rich - it is who do you believe? That level of borrowing is beyond anything we have seen in this country for decades - but hey keep believing.

The DUP are not ideal bedfellows and some of their beliefs are not mine but then there are a host of religious MPs in all parties that I'm sure don't agree with abortion or same sex marriage. The leader of the Liberals for one - so their views are not way out David Ike stylee.



Jeremy would have to bow down to Queen Nicola to get power - she doesn't even want to be in the union!!

Let's face it the DUP were in the middle of a civil war - would you have trusted McGuiness and Adams in the 70's? Funnily enough Corbyn supported all their killing and maiming - nice guy, no wonder he is a pacifist now found his consunse!!

Sinn Fein still has a military wing so why are you so concerned about the DUP having one? Its OK for the Catholics?

The only way out is through no deal - if you stay in the single market you can't cut individual deals.

Better just accept its the WTO terms try and agree a borderless Ireland and move on.

Trump and Corbyn...imagine that

Corbyn supported none of their killing and maiming, he just tried to get someone to publicly acknowledge the legitimacy of a desire for united ireland. JC has been fiercely anti violence ever since he came on the scene.

If the N Ireland parties feel the need to maintain a paramilitary wing then thats a matter for themselves - just don't be inviting either of them to prop up a government of either colour while those paramilitaries are still active.

You didn't click a single one of those links did you...?

How would you have a borderless Ireland ?
It sounds easy when you say it but, the reality is that it just isn't possible.
Effectively it would provide tariff free access in both directions and whilst there is little doubt that this may suit Ireland (North and South), it would no doubt become a gateway for a whole host of "under the counter trade".
There always used to be a heap of trade in the border towns and many of these were done within the "grey" market, is that really how you think it will work ?

On a side note, it seems that the Tories are too nervous about re running the GE and they seem to prefer limping along until they are finally put out of their governmental misery.

Are you still a big fan of Mrs May ?

I'd buy a ticket to watch that one !

In your rabid anti-euro world maybe, but the election result has put a massive hole in H.M.S. Hard Brexit.

It still doesn't make sense, how can you accuse someone of being a supporter of terrorism who is against violence? It's like calling someone a Commie Nazi.

If you want to debate Corbyn's economics or whatever then that's fine, but the whole 'pacifist terrorist' thing is a totally bizarre argument that TBH makes the people trying to use it look absolutely desperate and stupid. And trying to make out that he is somehow a bad guy for not wanting to nuke other countries is bordering on insanity.

Seems government don't understand the ramifications of their Fixed Term Parliament Act. On top of not knowing whether or not they have done a deal with the DUP their incompetence is now of farcical proportions. A true coalition of chaos (without even having a coalition)!

What they need to do is reach out to Labour to jointly negotiate the Brexit deal. If they were truly acting in the national interest (!!!!) they would. It would strengthen the UK's hand - 85% voted to leave the single market and allow them to squabble over who is blame if it all goes wrong.

Agreed, Brexit is such a major issue that the government need to be grown up about it and get other parties round the table, even the Jocks.

I dread to think what the results could be if they try and go it alone, they have brought nothing but chaos, uncertainty and made us a laughing stock before the whole international community.

There is a slim chance that if May can't form a government, Corbyn will get a go and I reckon he stands a reasonable chance of getting the progressive parties around and a few Tory back benchers. Otherwise, another general election which could go either way right now.

Sorry but, that would never happen, just as the Tories wouldn't back Labour is the boot was on the other foot.
Although hindsight is a wonderful thing, if it were possible, Brexit should have been looked at on a cross party basis, separate to ALL other policies.
Mrs May and her party, through utter greed and arrogance, may just have knackered our chances of getting a deal.
The 2 year time frame was always extremely tight and now, the Tories will be so busy trying to sort themselves out, that Brexit wont get the time and consideration that is requires.

Listening to the political commentators on the "Daily Politics", they (the Tories) are so fearful of losing a second election, that they will try and limp through.

Life really is stranger than fiction.

And on the other side of the coin not every person who voted for Conservative was just some rich person only worried about their wallet getting smaller. There are actually working class people who could see how the bigger long term picture of how bad Corbyn would have been even if others couldn't.

And no we don't need another newspaper link backing your view when you know it'd be easy to find links that told the opposite story.

For sure - there is a plurality of views; what I have a problem with is people who form their views on false information - of which Sal is a perfect example; soundbites and ill-informed repetition of a party line, without any enquiry or independent thought.

And you didn't click them either you dunderhead - one was a link to an FT analysis of why CT revenues went up last year, and the others weren't newspaper articles. If you are such a diligent researcher, feel free to provide counter arguments - you know I'm the kind of annoying person who'll read them; which will probably be a waste of my time, since you don't actually want to have a rational discussion.