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| Quote ="Mintball"I'm quite intrigued by the idea that there might be some people here who post things that they don't actually believe. Obviously there are trolls, but who else would do that?'"
I'm more intrigued by the theory suggesting that Standee's avatar is a picture of his face. An unusual looking bloke.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I'm more intrigued by the theory suggesting that Standee's avatar is a picture of his face. An unusual looking bloke.'"
Don't be daft, Standee doesn't have a heart.
Or I should at least say he does in real life, but pretends he doesn't on Sin Bin. That sounds more like it.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Don't be daft, Standee doesn't have a heart.
Or I should at least say he does in real life, but pretends he doesn't on Sin Bin. That sounds more like it.'"
I have a heart everywhere, I just choose who I actually care about quite carefully.
Anyway, back to everything being the governments fault, I am sure Minty will link to something deep and meaningful that someone else has written shortly, she might even throw in a fancy word in an effort to eleveate herslef above the mere mortals on here.
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| Quote ="Standee"I have a heart everywhere, I just choose who I actually care about quite carefully.
Anyway, back to everything being the governments fault, I am sure Minty will link to something deep and meaningful that someone else has written shortly, she might even throw in a fancy word in an effort to eleveate herslef above the mere mortals on here.'"
Please point us in the direction on this thread where its been mentioned that Comet closing is the governments fault?
Yeah I know you have a heart and I know you choose who you care about carefully. Thats why you carefully slag fans groups off on here, then in the next breath pm and tell them carefully that they do a great job and offer to sponsor them.
You see I can show a different side to you too
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| Quote ="Standee" ... Anyway, back to everything being the governments fault ... '"
No it isn't, I'm surprised that you suggest that it is.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Anyway, back to the original topic.
What hopes for those who are now out of work or likely to be?
Anyone had the chance to read Heseltine's proposals on promoting growth?'"
We already have growth, always room for more though
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| Quote ="Standee"I have a heart everywhere, I just choose who I actually care about quite carefully.
Anyway, back to everything being the governments fault, I am sure Minty will link to something deep and meaningful that someone else has written shortly, she might even throw in a fancy word in an effort to eleveate herslef above the mere mortals on here.'"
Standee, I'm sure you can get help for those chips.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Are you really still trying to peddle that little myth? Really?
I look forward to hearing your explanation of a culture of what appears to be poor management, and a lack of coherent planning and investment in the private sector.'"
You can plan all the investment you want but if the banks will not lend the money you cannot speculate to accumulate. Don't blame the Tories - Labour were in power for many years before the banking crisis happened.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"You can plan all the investment you want but if the banks will not lend the money you cannot speculate to accumulate...'"
Which is a good point.
Quote ="Sal Paradise"... Don't blame the Tories ...'"
I'm sure that you can point to the post, in this thread (context) where I have.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"You can plan all the investment you want but if the banks will not lend the money you cannot speculate to accumulate.'"
Remind me again, how much of these banks do we own?
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Remind me again, how much of these banks do we own?'"
Remind us again what the governement have told the banks to do - increase their capital bases, not take risks, comply with new regulation. The government do not want them to lend - they just make noises for the benefit of the electorate.
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| Quote ="Standee"Indeed not, but it is only a certain type of poster that chooses to do it, the type of poster who believes everything they say is right, and everyone else who disagrees is wrong.'"
You are, without doubt, the least self-aware person I have ever come across. Absolutely astonishing.
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| Shame that Jessops has gone under. Always liked them.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Remind me again, how much of these banks do we own?'"
Of the whole banking sector in the UK a very small amount - can you imagine the uproar there would be if either of the government banks ended up with huge losses on the back of very risky lending?
One thing that doesn't seem to get much press is the number of businesses banks are keeping going that should have gone. If this happened it would clear the way for the well run businesses to make progress.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Of the whole banking sector in the UK a very small amount - can you imagine the uproar there would be if either of the government banks ended up with huge losses on the back of very risky lending?
One thing that doesn't seem to get much press is the number of businesses banks are keeping going that should have gone. If this happened it would clear the way for the well run businesses to make progress.'"
You mean that if we clear the decks of all businesses run on an overdraft and with loans and leases for equipment and modernisation, then the UK economy would be just hunky-dory and we wouldn't all be out of jobs at all ?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"You mean that if we clear the decks of all businesses run on an overdraft and with loans and leases for equipment and modernisation, then the UK economy would be just hunky-dory and we wouldn't all be out of jobs at all ?'"
Where did I suggest running a business on an overdraft is representative of a poorly run business?
In every sector there are businesses that corrupt the equilibrium of the that market, pre-packs are a classic example. These firms go bust but phoenix with the same owners but no debt as a result their overheads are artificially understated and that is reflected in the prices they offer. This affects the whole market and everyone who has run their business correctly suffers. Fortunately the failure rate for pre-packs is very high but whilst they are operating the cause significant issues.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Where did I suggest running a business on an overdraft is representative of a poorly run business?
In every sector there are businesses that corrupt the equilibrium of the that market, pre-packs are a classic example. These firms go bust but phoenix with the same owners but no debt as a result their overheads are artificially understated and that is reflected in the prices they offer. This affects the whole market and everyone who has run their business correctly suffers. Fortunately the failure rate for pre-packs is very high but whilst they are operating the cause significant issues.'"
Pre-packs make up a tiny percentage of companies operating in the UK and those specifically set up in order to gain markets with the intention of folding and setting up again are a fraction of that figure. Much of the banks' capital is tied up in lending to "zombie" companies. They are borrowing to keep afloat, treading water, waiting for an upturn but at the same time keeping people in jobs. So despite not assisting in growing the economy, they are at least assisting in keeping their employees spending.
There have been calls for the banks to foreclose on the loans to "zombies" and use the released capital to assist companies with potentialfor growth. The problem with that, as the banks know only too well, is that they'd probaby only realise 10% of the capital loaned, so that drastically reduces the pot of money available to other companies.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Pre-packs make up a tiny percentage of companies operating in the UK and those specifically set up in order to gain markets with the intention of folding and setting up again are a fraction of that figure. Much of the banks' capital is tied up in lending to "zombie" companies. They are borrowing to keep afloat, treading water, waiting for an upturn but at the same time keeping people in jobs. So despite not assisting in growing the economy, they are at least assisting in keeping their employees spending.
There have been calls for the banks to foreclose on the loans to "zombies" and use the released capital to assist companies with potentialfor growth. The problem with that, as the banks know only too well, is that they'd probaby only realise 10% of the capital loaned, so that drastically reduces the pot of money available to other companies.'"
It would also adversely affect their balance sheet and their own cost of borrowing too!!
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| Quote ="Dally"Shame that Jessops has gone under. Always liked them.'"
I always found them helpful.
Someone somewhere was suggesting that there's no place for such a company in "the digital world", but I cannot fathom anyone wanting to buy something such as a piece of camera kit online. I much prefer to have the chance to discuss a major purchase with someone, look at it, even test it out.
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| Quote ="Mintball"wanting to buy something such as a piece of camera kit online. I much prefer to have the chance to discuss a major purchase with someone, look at it, even test it out.'"
problem is, people did just that, and then bought online because they could get it cheaper, even from Jessops themselves, I saw a lens online for about £700, found a shop near where I was working and the tag price was nearer £1000, so I went home, and duly ordered it from a completely differene supplier.
Jessops invested a substantial amount in print technology just as the market all but collapsed, and again, there were cheaper alternatives available.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"We already have growth, always room for more though
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Such great growth (between double dips into recession) that GDP is still below 2007 levels.
And still no sign of plan B.
But hey- ho, the cabinet millionaires are doing ok, so let' s be thankful.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Such great growth (between double dips into recession) that GDP is still below 2007 levels.
And still no sign of plan B.
But hey- ho, the cabinet millionaires are doing ok, so let' s be thankful.'"
Labour have been very specific about what they wou.... oh, hang on.
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| Quote ="Standee"Labour have been very specific about what they wou.... oh, hang on.'"
Just because people criticise this government doesn't mean they agree with all or anything Labour do.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Just because people criticise this government doesn't mean they agree with all or anything Labour do.'"
...and oppostition party's don't have to run a shadow economy alongside the real one or publish "what we would do instead" information - the current incumbants (whoever they may be) have stood up and offered themselves up for the job confident in their own abilities to cope and improve.
It would be helpful if each political party would publish their CV's though.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"It would be helpful if each political party would publish their CV's though.'"
I dont think any of them would get further than a Blue Peter badge and getting a picture on the Gallery, thats the problem, when we want someone to operate on us we expect a trained and educated specialist, when buying a house we want a trained and educated solicitor/lawyer, even when I buy meat from the supermarket I expect the person serving me to have had some training.
And then, we get Grant Shapps as Housing Minister
they are all useless to varying extents
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