The west getting embroiled in Syria also makes things worse. www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/2 ... f-jihadist it is clear that Western policy in Syria is creating instability and leading to radicalisation of many people. Syria is only important to the west because they want to undermine Iran and for no other reason. That is going to make the situation in the middle East far more volatile for years to come and give Israel a free hand to carry on denying the Palestinians rights with a continued level of anger and frustration in the Muslim world.

The west getting embroiled in Syria also makes things worse. www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/2 ... f-jihadist it is clear that Western policy in Syria is creating instability and leading to radicalisation of many people. Syria is only important to the west because they want to undermine Iran and for no other reason. That is going to make the situation in the middle East far more volatile for years to come and give Israel a free hand to carry on denying the Palestinians rights with a continued level of anger and frustration in the Muslim world.

Ah the old "what if it were you" line again - thats not how the law works you know, it works by standing back and taking a sensible overview and then applying a set of rules to each separate incident following a clearly defined procedure, its either that or we let some knuckleheads take to the streets to "defend" something that they can't really get their heads around to defining yet.

That ain't a perfect London accent. It's an accent in London from someone who is african. That geezer would be at a guess african raised in London. And looking at him, West African.

It's easy to feel tht way as any decent human being should be feeling sick to the pit of their stomach at this. These people make my skin crawl but if we do that the Islamists have won. Because this is exactly how they want to live. The stupid thing is most of the young lads coming out with this crap and following hate preachers to carry our their murderous dirty work are too thick to realise this. Countries that operate sharia law stone people to death and torture people without trial but we in Britain do not too many people have died for our way of life."sorry your women had to see this" they have a real problem with women too. Quite frankly the Islamists have no argument they are pathetic plain and simple and while morons like these two are around there'll always be risks to our way of life.

Saw that on Twitter

Very true

And the EDL response?

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/23/woolwich-attack-anti-muslim-reprisalsEDL battle police in Woolwich[/url

I wonder if the idiot in Braintree will be charged with terrorist offences, after entering a mosque with a knife and petrol bomb?

Quote ="Durham Giant"a couple of good bits of analysis from the Beeb. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634095 in my mind there is a direct link between failures in policy towards Afghanistan and Iraq which directly have led to this situation. By going into afghanistan and not dealing with the situation there quickly it created a festering sore. The then atack on Iraq which was unneccessary meant that the west took there eye of the ball and meant that they had lost any moral or political justification for remaining in afghanistan and dragging out an unwinnable war. If the resources and time wasted on Iraq had been spent on afghanistan then the troops would have been home five years or more ago and the level of anger that we now see would not have been there which is the link drwan out in the second interview above.'" As I said before, the filth that have all but destroyed our society are giving them victimhood status and it's all our fault! The BBC is infested by scum and should be shut down.

Quote ="Durham Giant"a couple of good bits of analysis from the Beeb. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100 www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634095 in my mind there is a direct link between failures in policy towards Afghanistan and Iraq which directly have led to this situation. By going into afghanistan and not dealing with the situation there quickly it created a festering sore. The then atack on Iraq which was unneccessary meant that the west took there eye of the ball and meant that they had lost any moral or political justification for remaining in afghanistan and dragging out an unwinnable war. If the resources and time wasted on Iraq had been spent on afghanistan then the troops would have been home five years or more ago and the level of anger that we now see would not have been there which is the link drwan out in the second interview above.'" As I said before, the filth that have all but destroyed our society are giving them victimhood status and it's all our fault! The BBC is infested by scum and should be shut down.

Well, Essex man was first to reject Labour and turn to Thatcher for the sake of the country. Maybe Essex man could be the saviour of the UK again?

You've fulfilled Saddened's prediction already!

Don't put the blame anywhere else but where it belongs: at the feet of the two terrorists. This has nothing to do with government policy, nothing whatsoever. It has to do with two individuals who have chosen to hate and take out their hate on an innocent man (who has now been confirmed as a member of the armed forces).

Not only that but if people have such grievances concern their lands (which no doubt they have never visited) what are they doing still living here? The UK does not stop people emigrating. If these people have convictions then they should live by them and bugger off. If they then wish to fight us so be it. But to live here and hate us then they are just hypocritcal, murderous scum.

But why have they become terrorists and what do you think needs to be done to stop more people becoming terrorists ?

I don't recall Catholic churches being attacked when the IRA were setting bombs off in London/Warrington etc. Maybe this lot have got the wrong end of the stick

Maybe because the Catholic church in Britain existed long before the IRA?

Are you saying that Islam didnt exist in the UK before Al Qaeda?

Ah, I see, Islam is new, is it?

It is to any extent within the UK.

It is, comparatively speaking.

Especially in the UK.

Its Wikipedia, but the first sentence [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdomhere[/url would suggest otherwise.

Given that murderous attacks in open daylight are not (presently) the norm on the UK high-street, please, enlighten us as to what the 'normal' response to a situation like this is?

Would you prefer it if there was mass panic with people running around screaming?

Islam is newer than Christianity and much newer than Judaism.

You need to read a bit of history.
You also need to recognise that mainstream Islam in the UK has condemned this dreadful attack.

Newer does not equal "new" though

You forgot a very important word in your post, alleged.

Not the point.
The IRA is much younger than Catholicism, Al Quaeda is much younger than Islam.

The IRA and Al Quaeda are not religions, they are terrorist groups.