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| Quote ="Dally"All this freak weather you talk about - is it really more common / more intense? We've not had a winter like 1963 since. We've had big coastal floods many times. The Thames used to freeze, etc, etc...'"
Yet we had a 6-8 month winter last year. Nice and mild this time around for most of the UK – yet the wettest one on record and nobody seems sure when it's likely to end.
That's two successive and extreme winters.
We have had heavy flooding now in at least three of the last six years, IIRC. Not in one place, once, but across the UK, on a number of occasions and sometimes more than once in the same place.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Yet we had a 6-8 month winter last year. Nice and mild this time around for most of the UK – yet the wettest one on record and nobody seems sure when it's likely to end.
That's two successive and extreme winters.
We have had heavy flooding now in at least three of the last six years, IIRC. Not in one place, once, but across the UK, on a number of occasions and sometimes more than once in the same place.'"
Yes, but such events have happened thousands of times over the millenia. If you look at longer term fluctations we in the Northern Hemishpere have had numerous ice-ages and very warm inter-glacial periods. Our current climate is, arguably, unnnaturally mild as I would guess are the short-term fluctuations in weather patterns.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Yet we had a 6-8 month winter last year. Nice and mild this time around for most of the UK – yet the wettest one on record and nobody seems sure when it's likely to end.
That's two successive and extreme winters.
We have had heavy flooding now in at least three of the last six years, IIRC. Not in one place, once, but across the UK, on a number of occasions and sometimes more than once in the same place.'"
These so-called freak weather patterns have always occurred and humans have always reacted in the same way i.e. panicking that they were omens of an impending apocalypse caused by immoral human behaviour. In the past it was God's wrath caused by our lack of faith in religion and today it is global warming caused by our lack of faith in environmentalism.
Despite the work of Galilleo showing that the earth revolves around the sun, people continue to believe that the earth revolves around us. Everything that happens on this planet is down to us. People need to just accept that there are forces more powerful than us that are out of our control.
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| Quote ="David Titan"These so-called freak weather patterns have always occurred and humans have always reacted in the same way i.e. panicking that they were omens of an impending apocalypse caused by immoral human behaviour. In the past it was God's wrath caused by our lack of faith in religion and today it is global warming caused by our lack of faith in environmentalism.
Despite the work of Galilleo showing that the earth revolves around the sun, people continue to believe that the earth revolves around us. Everything that happens on this planet is down to us. People need to just accept that there are forces more powerful than us that are out of our control.'"
When you say people believe the Earth revolves around us, who are "us" - you and who? Where do you stand?
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| Quote ="David Titan"These so-called freak weather patterns have always occurred and humans have always reacted in the same way i.e. panicking that they were omens of an impending apocalypse caused by immoral human behaviour. In the past it was God's wrath caused by our lack of faith in religion and today it is global warming caused by our lack of faith in environmentalism.
Despite the work of Galilleo showing that the earth revolves around the sun, people continue to believe that the earth revolves around us. Everything that happens on this planet is down to us. People need to just accept that there are forces more powerful than us that are out of our control.'"
Don't those two paragraphs directly contradict each other ?
"Its not us, its just nature"
"We are causing the nature"
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Don't those two paragraphs directly contradict each other ?
"Its not us, its just nature"
"We are causing the nature"'"
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Don't those two paragraphs directly contradict each other ?
"Its not us, its just nature"
"We are causing the nature"'"
Having read what he wrote there is no contradiction - just your inability to understand the written word. Both paragraphs mock humanity's group ego- centricity.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Don't those two paragraphs directly contradict each other ?
"Its not us, its just nature"
"We are causing the nature"'"
Having read what he wrote there is no contradiction - just your inability to understand the written word. Both paragraphs mock humanity's group ego- centricity.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Don't those two paragraphs directly contradict each other ?
"Its not us, its just nature"
"We are causing the nature"'"
I rather like this:
"Despite the work of Galilleo showing that the earth revolves around the sun, people continue to believe that the earth revolves around us."
Yes. I can well imagine all those people thinking that the Earth revolves around them and not the sun.
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| Quote ="Dally"Having read what he wrote there is no contradiction - just your inability to understand the written word. Both paragraphs mock humanity's group ego- centricity.'"
Having read what you, sorry, he, wrote (LOL) then here is the contradiction for you ...
Quote "In the past it was God's wrath caused by our lack of faith in religion and today it is global warming caused by our lack of faith in environmentalism"'"
In other words nothing that is happening to the weather now is anything to do with climate change, its purely humans trying to fit a description to a natural phenomenon.
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"Everything that happens on this planet is down to us"'"
Riiii-ght.
Maybe you meant to log off after the first paragraph and write the second one as someone else, like you then did 10 mins after "Titan" wrote his/its post ?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Having read what you, sorry, he, wrote (LOL) then here is the contradiction for you ...
In other words nothing that is happening to the weather now is anything to do with climate change, its purely humans trying to fit a description to a natural phenomenon.
Riiii-ght.
Maybe you meant to log off after the first paragraph and write the second one as someone else, like you then did 10 mins after "Titan" wrote his/its post ?'"
Gotta give it to Dally.
He does keep us all fairly amused on here.
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| I really do despair at the "knowledge" of the right wing apologists on these forums.
It seems to work on :
If it is is written in the right sort of publication it is therefore the truth.
If it is spoken by the right sort of person then it is therefore the truth.
Anybody who disagrees or, even more dangerous, QUESTIONS theses utterances is not really a person of understanding.
An observation, regarding how our "aristocratic " system works and is expected to work. Over the last few years we have been told that austerity was for the benefit of all. Some people are really suffering because of this. From the right wings great elite, not a peep.
Suddenly, farms and animals are in trouble and lo and behold the elites leader (who is supposed to represent us all without bias ) chips up and says their will be feed and help from the royal farms to help these poor people.
Now this flooding is probably a once in a lifetime event. To those who have lost everything then the trauma etc. can only be imagined.
However when people come before the populace complaining that yes they know they live on a flood plain but basically didn't expect to flood then for them my sympathy meter goes into a downward spiral, especially the tory farmer who stated his land had been flooded a long time ago but no one had put up flood defences for him since then!
Was that HYPOCRISY I heard, Privatisation is best, work for yourself, you only get things by your own efforts etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. He could and should have put flood defences up himself, crikey he gets enough EU money as a farmer (ooops too right wing political hypocrisy).
These floods have been an eye opener, and hopefully thinking starter for so many people but as long as the standard FUJIA until it affects me is replaced I doubt if things will change. Oh we will get knee jerk political reactions as we have seen but the root cause will NOT be looked for because there are vested interests in ensuring this is never found
In a nutshell Tories look after Tories and no one else.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"... Now this flooding is probably a once in a lifetime event ...'"
Indeed.
There were no floods in the UK in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Great_Britain_and_Ireland_floods2012[/url. Or in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_floods2007[/url. Or [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Morpeth_floods2008[/url. Or [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Great_Britain_and_Ireland_floods2009[/url.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Having read what you, sorry, he, wrote (LOL) then here is the contradiction for you ...
In other words nothing that is happening to the weather now is anything to do with climate change, its purely humans trying to fit a description to a natural phenomenon.
Riiii-ght.
Maybe you meant to log off after the first paragraph and write the second one as someone else, like you then did 10 mins after "Titan" wrote his/its post ?'"
Are you plain thick. Read it again and then pick up the context from the very last sntence! I despair.
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| Quote ="Dally"Are you plain thick. Read it again and then pick up the context from the very last sntence! I despair.'"
If its so clear in the last paragraph (it isn't) then why did you have to log off the Titan account and then log back in as the Dally account a few minutes later to ask yourself to clarify what you meant in the last paragraph ?
You can't fool us you know, logging back in the other side of midnight doesn't mean that we'll think its a completely different day...
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"If its so clear in the last paragraph (it isn't) then why did you have to log off the Titan account and then log back in as the Dally account a few minutes later to ask yourself to clarify what you meant in the last paragraph ?
You can't fool us you know, logging back in the other side of midnight doesn't mean that we'll think its a completely different day...'"
You are showing yourself to be an even bigger imbecile now. I am sure the Mods will confirm that if you ask.
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| Quote ="Dally"You are showing yourself to be an even bigger imbecile now. I am sure the Mods will confirm that if you ask.'"
LOLZ, do you have to run upstairs to use the Titan PC or is it in the next room, or was it just a remarkable coincidence that the pair of you were up and about and posting at midnight last night - did you know he was online in his bedroom again ?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"LOLZ, do you have to run upstairs to use the Titan PC or is it in the next room, or was it just a remarkable coincidence that the pair of you were up and about and posting at midnight last night - did you know he was online in his bedroom again ?'"
Sure was a coincidence. I suspect you like conspiracy theories as you can't seem to accept such a simple fact. Ask the mods if you think we were in the same house. Silly boy.
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| Wow!
Bet it doesn't happen again though...
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| Titan is an isotope of Dally.
Titan is not Dally.
Son of probably ...
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Titan is an isotope of Dally.
Titan is not Dally.
Son of probably ...'"
No I am ever poster on here other than JerryChicken!!
#Jerryparanoidconspiracytheorist
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| I'm Dally...
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| No.
I'm Dally.
Or was that Titan?
Oh, forget it.
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| I'm Spartacus.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Titan is an isotope of Dally.
Titan is not Dally.
Son of probably ...'"
Two thirds of the holy trinity.
One wonders who is the third ...
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