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| Are Dally and Kirkstaller trying to outdo one another in a 'post the stupidest thread' competition?
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| Another benefit of a ban would be the clsure of seedy dvd shops. Would also free up bandwidth on the internet to allow serious users to work more efficiently.
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| Dally's trolling is becoming more and more obvious.
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| Lots of couples watch pornography together, I appreciate that. But even if both parties are happy with it then it is still damaging to the relationship. Lusting after other people can never be a good thing for our relationships.
I admit that I occasionally have a wandering eye; I daresay my wife does as well. However, what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong and that sexual activity is mean for married couples only. This brings us back to each other, and we have a great sex life.
Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.
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| Quote ="Dally"Another benefit of a ban would be the clsure of seedy dvd shops. Would also free up bandwidth on the internet to allow serious users to work more efficiently.'"
and what about the mainstream type of sex shop? you know the one that sells more than dvds, that aren't "seedy"?
and if freeing up bandwidth to "allow serious users to work more efficiently" allows you more time to troll on forums like this, then i think there should be more porn on the net!!
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Lots of couples watch pornography together, I appreciate that. But even if both parties are happy with it then it is still damaging to the relationship. Lusting after other people can never be a good thing for our relationships.
I admit that I occasionally have a wandering eye; I daresay my wife does as well. However, what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong and that sexual activity is mean for married couples only. This brings us back to each other, and we have a great sex life.
Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'"
my wife and i watch porn together, i watch porn on my own, my wife also watches porn on her own. its not damaged our relationship, and we don't lust after other people. i don't lust after those that i watch in porn films, i've never lusted after other women or slept with other women nor my wife other men. in fact we've been married for 15 years and have 2 kids.
you say that sex is for married couples only? thats your choice more than likely based on your religion, good for you you stick to those principles and i'll stick to mine!
and as for your last point, i don't think anyone in their right mind would try and justify child porn. i've been watching porn for many years and reading/looking at porn for a bit longer, i've never committed a sex crime, i've never thought about committing one. i have a healthy sex life and me AND my wife enjoy what we watch and what we part take in.
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| Quote ="fatboystu"my wife and i watch porn together, i watch porn on my own, my wife also watches porn on her own. its not damaged our relationship, and we don't lust after other people. i don't lust after those that i watch in porn films, i've never lusted after other women or slept with other women nor my wife other men. in fact we've been married for 15 years and have 2 kids.'"
If you aren't lusting after the people in the films, why do you watch it?
Quote you say that sex is for married couples only? thats your choice more than likely based on your religion, good for you you stick to those principles and i'll stick to mine!'"
Your principles are wrong.
Quote and as for your last point, i don't think anyone in their right mind would try and justify child porn. i've been watching porn for many years and reading/looking at porn for a bit longer, i've never committed a sex crime, i've never thought about committing one. i have a healthy sex life and me AND my wife enjoy what we watch and what we part take in.'"
What about people who watch child porn and never do anything to hurt other people? Is that OK?
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| From porn to peadofiles in one easy jump.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"If you aren't lusting after the people in the films, why do you watch it?'"
we watch it because we enjoy watching it. i don't lust after the actors/actresses, as to do so would mean i want to have sex with them, i don't. sometimes we watch porn to gain new ideas for our sex life, sometimes that missionary lark gets a bit tedious don't cha think?
do you and your wife watch soap operas? just because you watch eastenders doesn't mean you want to live in albert square, just because you read a recipe book for ideas doesn't mean you want to eat at another mans table.
Quote ="kirkstaller"Your principles are wrong.'"
so says you. i'm happy with my life thanks.
Quote ="kirkstaller"What about people who watch child porn and never do anything to hurt other people? Is that OK?'"
no its not ok. child porn is illegal. engaging in sexual activity with anybody under the age of consent is wrong and illegal. as for people who watch child porn but never hurt other people, these people are, if they were nothing else, an enabler. without them there would be no child porn "industry". so tell me again that they aren't doing anything to hurt other people.
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| Quote ="fatboystu"we watch it because we enjoy watching it. i don't lust after the actors/actresses, as to do so would mean i want to have sex with them, i don't. sometimes we watch porn to gain new ideas for our sex life, sometimes that missionary lark gets a bit tedious don't cha think?'"
What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?
Quote do you and your wife watch soap operas? just because you watch eastenders doesn't mean you want to live in albert square, just because you read a recipe book for ideas doesn't mean you want to eat at another mans table.'"
We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.
Quote no its not ok. child porn is illegal. engaging in sexual activity with anybody under the age of consent is wrong and illegal. as for people who watch child porn but never hurt other people, these people are, if they were nothing else, an enabler. without them there would be no child porn "industry". so tell me again that they aren't doing anything to hurt other people.'"
OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.
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| Quick move the goal posts!!
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?'"
if you'd bothered to read my earlier post you would have seen that i said i've been reading porn longer than i've been watching it.
Quote ="kirkstaller"We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.'"
why would you "pass it off as some kind of research"? do you need to make excuses for everything you do in life?
Quote ="kirkstaller"OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.'"
this seems to be something of an obsession for you, and to be frank it worries me somewhat. in answer to your question however (and at risk of repetition) i oppose any type of child porn. it is illegal, sexual activity with anyone under the age of consent is illegal. so, even if no more was made, by owning or viewing child porn you are breaking the law. on a personal level, the thought of child porn disgusts me, as it should any normal person.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Just my personal experience.
In the States we had guys coming to our chapel seeking help on an almost weekly basis.'" That will be a no and you made it up then.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Dally's trolling is becoming more and more obvious.'" You can't say that.
He will next ask you what you mean by it and then when another poster explains it he will get all upset and sqweam and sqweam until he makes himself sick again.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Lots of couples watch pornography together, I appreciate that. But even if both parties are happy with it then it is still damaging to the relationship. Lusting after other people can never be a good thing for our relationships.
I admit that I occasionally have a wandering eye; I daresay my wife does as well. However, what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong and that sexual activity is mean for married couples only. This brings us back to each other, and we have a great sex life.'"
So much of this is rubbish that I won't waste my time with it.
Quote ="kirkstaller"Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'" Just so you understand Child pornography is already illegal so why or how would anyone justify it? I only state this as you seemed to have missed them memo about it.........Oh no wait you already knew this as you mentioned.
So to clarify you are seeming to say that we should make normal pornography illegal because of child pornography which is already illegal. What an incredibly strange statement to make.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"... what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong ...'"
Those nasty, god-given instincts, eh?
Quote ="kirkstaller"... Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'"
This is crass and disingenuous even by your standards.
If, as you're suggesting, watching porn always leads to the illegal – and your implication here is that it leads to viewing child porn – then it is as legitimate to say that all consenting, adult sex leads to child abuse.
Quote ="kirkstaller"... Your principles are wrong ...'"
Here we go again. Judge not that ye be not judged. Hypocrite.
Quote ="kirkstaller"What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book ...'"
Well indeed. There are plenty of excellent porn books out there – some of it is downright literary. And nobody's ever lusted over something that they've read, oh no ...
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"we have a great sex life.
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With that hair "style"?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"From porn to peadofiles in one easy jump.
The lazy preacher strikes again!'"
Some see the connection between the two, mainly because they are morons.
I was once asked 'would you let a gay near your young son'
The person in question couldn't get it that the vast majority of gay men and women find pedophilia as abhorrent as the vast majority of heterosexuals do.
I think Kirkstaller finds it difficult to believe that a happy couple, whatever the sexual orientation can enjoy watching a porno without it screwing the relationship, it shows how sheltered a life a lot of these devout religious believers have.
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| Quote ="rover49"
I think Kirkstaller finds it difficult to believe that a happy couple, whatever the sexual orientation can enjoy watching a porno without it screwing the relationship, it shows how sheltered a life a lot of these devout religious believers have.'"
In his defence, when you've only ever had joyless, functional, missionary position sex, you probably find porn a bit overwhelming.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book?
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Free hands?
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| Quote ="ryano"Free hands?
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Depends if you have the DVD player controls in your hand to keep rewinding to the money shot in slow-mo?
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| Minty, any chance of a signed copy of one of your tomes for my missus? She does enjoy a bit of sticky fingered reading.
I don't think internet porn has changed me at all, I was always a deviant....
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"Minty, any chance of a signed copy of one of your tomes for my missus? She does enjoy a bit of sticky fingered reading.
I don't think internet porn has changed me at all, I was always a deviant....'"
It is in German, but ... PM me your details, her name etc.
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| Quote ="Mintball"It is in German, but ... PM me your details, her name etc.
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And if you need any research info for the next novel feel free to contact me.
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