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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Mmm, I thought offal was included in the figures, you learn something every day.
Now, that "British" tag has some great workarounds too.'"
Still the most brazen one I heard was on a TV investigation program, Bookers were selling big bags of a particular frozen product by the hundred to eg pubs for pub dinners, the product looked like a sausage but contained zero "meat" as per the definition i.e was all s, fat etc. The pack looked fantastic, and was sold by the name, in big yellow jolly letters. "BANGERS".
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| Quote ="Little Robin Redhead"Thank god I'm vegetarian.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Still the most brazen one I heard was on a TV investigation program, Bookers were selling big bags of a particular frozen product by the hundred to eg pubs for pub dinners, the product looked like a sausage but contained zero "meat" as per the definition i.e was all s, fat etc. The pack looked fantastic, and was sold by the name, in big yellow jolly letters. "BANGERS".'"
They, and another trade outlet who allow members of the public to join for a fee, also sell huge bags of burgers and call them something like "burger van burgers" the obvious implication being that they are cheap (they are) and not to be confused with their more regular burger products, which in the case of the trade outlet that lets members of the public join, are actually very good.
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| To be honest there's no point worrying too much about what's in the meat your eating. We all must have eaten our fair share of trotters, ringpieces and other delightful cuts over various BBQ's and Rugby games.
If I'm buying from a shop however, I do check the meat content and generally won't go lower than 80% if I can help it.
Once took a group of teenagers to show them how to shop healthily and found some "value" sausages that were 7% meat, 30 for about £2
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| At Uni me and my mate prectically lived off Tesco "Economy Burgers". Christ knows what was in them and I'm not sure why neither of us has CJD.
Personally I'm glad we don't waste protein.
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| From Channel 4, a glaring example of the retards that now "run" the country:
Quote Even though it no longer has responsibility for food labelling, the government has asked the FSA to investigate where the mis-labelled horse meat originated. The agency told Channel 4 News this evening that mis-labelled meat products are in breach of food standards laws.
However if Tesco's Value Beefburgers, which were found to have highest horse meat content, had been labelled as containing horse meat they would be perfectly legal and fit for human consumption.
"Although I doubt they would have been flying off the shelves," an FSA spokesperson said.'"
So, although nobody yet even has a clue how the horsemeat got in the mix, let alone what source the dead horses were from or what state the carcasses were in or how they had been stored or transported or processed, a label would have made them "fit for human consumption".
You really couldn't make it up.
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| Quote ="DHM"At Uni me and my mate prectically lived off Tesco "Economy Burgers". Christ knows what was in them and I'm not sure why neither of us has CJD. '"
Probably due to the low beef content. I don't think the practice of feeding horse to other horses has caught on in the same way it did with cattle.
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| Is it true that Gary Hetherington will sue Tesco for feeding him horsemeat, on the basis that he was cohorsed into it?
Meanwhile in a bid to reassure the public, major supermarkets have engaged John Selwyn Gummer to recreate his infamous pose cohorsing another child into eating burgers, who he insists has never come to any harm.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Probably due to the low beef content. '"
I think that's the answer. Once you'd cooked the fat out of them they were the size of a 10p piece (an old one, not the tiny little thing we have now).
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| Quote ="Standee"Because engaging in arguments with people engrained in their opinions is as pointless as it is frustrating.'"
After reading the "debate" you've been taking part in during this thread I'd be inclined to agree, although probably not in the same way you're suggesting.
Not got much else to add, most of it's been covered. Agree with the posts about the biggest problem being the non-existent labelling and the quality of the meat. In the right circumstances I'd be willing to give most meats a try.
I'd steer clear of any Tesco Value sausages, mind...
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| Quote ="GT"After reading the "debate" you've been taking part in during this thread I'd be inclined to agree, although probably not in the same way you're suggesting.
Not got much else to add, most of it's been covered. Agree with the posts about the biggest problem being the non-existent labelling and the quality of the meat. In the right circumstances I'd be willing to give most meats a try.
I'd steer clear of any Tesco Value sausages, mind...'"
I'd be a bit worried about the fairy cakes just now too...
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"I'd be a bit worried about the fairy cakes just now too...'"
Is the Cock a Leekie soup OK?
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| Wouldn't rush out to buy your supermarket burgers just yet. Have it in very giid authority that a branch of a very large chain has them in the storeroom freezer. question is whether that's an over-sight - removed them from shelves and forgot the freezer or maybe it's the stuff from the shelves?
If that is replicated across other branches and other supermarkets let's hope that the food testers keep up their work or the supermarkets fairly mark then as containing bits of horse and pig.
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| Your not safe, apparently traces of uniqourn have been found in veggie burgers
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| Quote ="Boiled-Yed"Your not safe, apparently traces of uniqourn have been found in veggie burgers
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That's ok, as a uniquorn would be an immitation meat mycoprotein mythological beast, as opposed to a real mythological beast, if you'll pardon the oxymoron.
So we are safe, unless Armando Iannucci was right when he asked, "If meat is murder, is quorn wasting police time?"
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| Quote ="bren2k"That's ok, as a uniquorn would be an immitation meat mycoprotein mythological beast, as opposed to a real mythological beast, if you'll pardon the oxymoron.
So we are safe, unless Armando Iannucci was right when he asked, "If meat is murder, is quorn wasting police time?"'"
If anyone saw Quorn being made i doubt they would eat it.!!
It is grown in Huge stainless steel tanks and looks and smells disgusting prior to production.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"If anyone saw Quorn being made i doubt they would eat it.!!
It is grown in Huge stainless steel tanks and looks and smells disgusting prior to production.'"
I sometimes have it made into chilli, when the strong flavours are able to mask the rancid natural taste, which is something akin to wet cardboard.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"From Channel 4, a glaring example of the retards that now "run" the country:
So, although nobody yet even has a clue how the horsemeat got in the mix, let alone what source the dead horses were from or what state the carcasses were in or how they had been stored or transported or processed, a label would have made them "fit for human consumption".
You really couldn't make it up.'"
Surely if it was labelled as containing Horse meat, this would mean they knew it contained horse meat, so we could assume they would know what source the dead horses were from, what state the carcasses were in, how they had been stored, transported and processed, unless they are suggesting "stick a label on them now" and this will "make" them ok.
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"Surely if it was labelled as containing Horse meat, this would mean they knew it contained horse meat, so we could assume they would know what source the dead horses were from, what state the carcasses were in, how they had been stored, transported and processed, unless they are suggesting "stick a label on them now" and this will "make" them ok.'"
Exactly ... the problem is not the labelling but the control and monitoring of the supply chain.
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| As a certain admin has pointed out elsewhere, you'll notice that the reports say horse DNA not horse meat, these are economy products, meat content will be low.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"As a certain admin has pointed out elsewhere, you'll notice that the reports say horse DNA not horse meat, these are economy products, meat content will be low.'"
[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9807537/Europe-supplied-horse-meat-in-burgers.htmlTesco, which sold a beefburger containing " 29 per cent horse "meat""[/url ,blamed the suppliers, saying they were either guilty of illegality or gross negligence.
Almost a 1/3rd horse meat, so not exactly just DNA traces. Traces of Cow DNA is usually what you get in economy beef burgers.
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| [url=http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0130/365256-tesco-drops-silvercrest-over-horse-dna-controversy/Tesco drops Silvercrest[/url
They're also introducing DNA tests on meat products.
[iThe statement concluded: "These checks will set a new standard. It will be a significant investment for Tesco, borne by Tesco.[/i - Yeah right. So Tesco will be paying for these tests from their own pockets or shareholder dividends?
Now I'm certainly no expert on genetics but I assumed that a DNA tests needed to be tailored to identify a specific animal/species and also how long are these tests going to take? The meat will probably be off before they're completed
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They're also introducing DNA tests on meat products.
[iThe statement concluded: "These checks will set a new standard. It will be a significant investment for Tesco, borne by Tesco.[/i - Yeah right. So Tesco will be paying for these tests from their own pockets or shareholder dividends?
Now I'm certainly no expert on genetics but I assumed that a DNA tests needed to be tailored to identify a specific animal/species and also how long are these tests going to take? The meat will probably be off before they're completed'"
It's bad anyway, but if the story from the [iGuardian[/i the other week is true, that it's actually 'drind' – dehydrated rind, which can be listed as 'seasoning' on a packet, so you've no chance of expecting that one – then it's far worse. Because for that to happen you're not talking about an accident.
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| I wonder if this fiasco will convert many people to making their own meals from scratch?
It ought to but somehow I don't think it will.
I mean, how hard is it to make a burger?
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