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| Quote ="Mintball"
The idea that one's liking or otherwise for a specific drink is based on your class is idiocy.'"
Surely, it's not about taste but about ability to afford the stuff regularly? The point being that socialists who can are hypocrites as they spout equality but are happy personally to have more income / wealth than the masses. They could, of course, give their surplus income / wealth to those more needy than themselves rather than imbibe luxuriously expensive drinks. That would be the socialist think to do.
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| Quote ="Dally"Surely, it's not about taste but about ability to afford the stuff regularly? The point being that socialists who can are hypocrites as they spout equality but are happy personally to have more income / wealth than the masses. They could, of course, give their surplus income / wealth to those more needy than themselves rather than imbibe luxuriously expensive drinks. That would be the socialist think to do.'"
You're confused.
The one basic tenet that links all varieties of socialism (and there are many, even though you speak as if there is only one) is that of collective responsibility for those worse off or more needy.
Note that term "[ucollective[/u responsibility".
Let's say that I want people like myself to pay more in taxes to improve life for those at the bottom of the heap.
You would say "Fine, give your money to whoever you see fit and be happy at that", thereby demonstrating that you haven't grasped the term "collective responsibility".
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"You're confused.
The one basic tenet that links all varieties of socialism (and there are many, even though you speak as if there is only one) is that of collective responsibility for those worse off or more needy.
Note that term "[ucollective[/u responsibility".
Let's say that I want people like myself to pay more in taxes to improve life for those at the bottom of the heap.
You would say "Fine, give your money to whoever you see fit and be happy at that", thereby demonstrating that you haven't grasped the term "collective responsibility".'"
Oh, I see.
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| Quote ="Mintball":1ommsytoI know it's been mentioned elsewhere (by Cod'ead, if memory serves), but the main reason that Vauxhall were seriously considering closing the plant on Merseyside was precisely because it's already easier in the UK to get rid of workers, of jobs and move a company elsewhere than it is anywhere else in western Europe.
But then, I don't think that sort of logic has much to with this, frankly. All it is is an ideological hatred of the state – ergo any regulation that impinges upon a small number of people making ever increasing money for themselves.'"
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| I don't mind people insulting Socialists for being Socialists, if that's their opinion of Socialism then that's fine by me. I don't like Capitalism and will tell a Capitalist what I think of their position and the fact that they are one. The difference is a Capitalist won't refute he is one. That's the problem.
What I don't like, what I really, really don't like, is when people are accused of being a Socialist. I don't like it primarily because the fake leftists amongst the Labour and Liberal Democrat party then refute the accusation, as if it really is something they shouldn't be, something that they'd be ashamed to be. People want to remove themselves from Socialism, for some reason.
It's becoming a dirty word mainly because of the Statists on the left who actually aren't genuine Socialists, which is why they run away from the word, because in fairness it isn't a fair representation of who they are. There are very few true Socialists in the Labour or Lib Dem ranks today. Accuse a true leftist like Tony Benn that he's a Socialist and he'll be proud of it!
Unfortunately it is becoming a dirty word, arguably already is one, just as it is in America.
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| Work Experience coalition stylee:
Internships for fooking shop assistants?
Couple that to an extension of the Work for Nowt Programme and you can give me socialism any day of the week in whatever hue it comes.
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And as I tweeted yesterday: online 'newspaper' @The_Upcoming advertises for free worker. www.gumtree.com/p/jobs/the-upcom ... /103212922
They want someone to work for free – to deadlines, of course, but at home (so using their own computer, internet connection, power etc etc).
This isn't a charity or some sort of 'worthy' publication – it's entirely commercial.
People talk about 'benefits scroungers', these people are skills scroungers.
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And as I tweeted yesterday: online 'newspaper' @The_Upcoming advertises for free worker. www.gumtree.com/p/jobs/the-upcom ... /103212922
They want someone to work for free – to deadlines, of course, but at home (so using their own computer, internet connection, power etc etc).
This isn't a charity or some sort of 'worthy' publication – it's entirely commercial.
People talk about 'benefits scroungers', these people are skills scroungers.
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Quote ="Mintball"And as I tweeted yesterday: online 'newspaper' @The_Upcoming advertises for free worker. www.gumtree.com/p/jobs/the-upcom ... /103212922
They want someone to work for free – to deadlines, of course, but at home (so using their own computer, internet connection, power etc etc).
This isn't a charity or some sort of 'worthy' publication – it's entirely commercial.
People talk about 'benefits scroungers', these people are skills scroungers.'"
It's almost as if someone took a look at John Major's Victorian Values manual and thought "let's start with employment"
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Quote ="Mintball"And as I tweeted yesterday: online 'newspaper' @The_Upcoming advertises for free worker. www.gumtree.com/p/jobs/the-upcom ... /103212922
They want someone to work for free – to deadlines, of course, but at home (so using their own computer, internet connection, power etc etc).
This isn't a charity or some sort of 'worthy' publication – it's entirely commercial.
People talk about 'benefits scroungers', these people are skills scroungers.'"
It's almost as if someone took a look at John Major's Victorian Values manual and thought "let's start with employment"
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Work Experience coalition stylee:
Internships for fooking shop assistants?
Couple that to an extension of the Work for Nowt Programme and you can give me socialism any day of the week in whatever hue it comes.'"
Coddy - can I ask is that something you photographed youself or is it doing the rounds on some other website? (If the latter, do you know which?).
Cheers.
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| That internship advert - oh my goodness!
Yeah... I'm out of words.
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| Found some thanks to Mintball's link:
Wage wanted. Although I am not able to work for you, this is offers your organisation a fantastic opportunity to enjoy the reflected glory of association with my name. No time wasters.
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| Quote ="Dally"Coddy - can I ask is that something you photographed youself or is it doing the rounds on some other website? (If the latter, do you know which?).
Cheers.'"
'Twas on twitter yesterday
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| Quote ="cod'ead"'Twas on twitter yesterday'"
Thanks.
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