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| Quote ="DHM"It's called Vaccine Breakthrough, PHE are doing the study and they will use our technology platform to do a lot of it. I work with them, I can't discuss details but they are planning comprehensive work. If it is reassuring at all vaccine breakthrough to do with the individuals response to the vaccine rather than variants. They will also do reinfection studies.
We (my company) have made around 60 variants of covid, including several strains of the delta and the C37 etc. We use a standard sample in all our tests that's calibrated to the WHO reference material, it's a pool of several covid positive convalescent individuals, it's from early last year so the infection was wild type (Wuhan strain). All the variants we test show massive antibody binding from that sample and ACE2 inhibition - direct inhibition of ACE2 binding to the viral protein. What that means is that all the variants so far (as I said we have made around 60), are still identified and strongly bound by antibodies from Wuhan strain infected individuals.
I want to be reassuring because we are in a really good place with the vaccines, they are highly effective against all forms of the virus so far and the people at the sharp end of this are all pretty confident that no mutation will appear that completely sidesteps the massive immune response the vaccines generate. I'm not being political, just factual. Booster shots are looking highly effective as well.'"
Great explanation, thank you.
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| It sounds like freedom day may not be as stated with the continuance of mask wearing inside public areas and on transport. I wonder who had been pushing for this change.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It sounds like freedom day may not be as stated with the continuance of mask wearing inside public areas and on transport. I wonder who had been pushing for this change.'"
Although this will now be a "personal choice" and not an instruction and impossible for retailers etc to enforce.
It was interesting to hear that a double jabbed person, over 50 is still more likely to die than an non jabbed person under 30, although "long covid" can and will affect the young.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Although this will now be a "personal choice" and not an instruction and impossible for retailers etc to enforce.
It was interesting to hear that a double jabbed person, over 50 is still more likely to die than an non jabbed person under 30, although "long covid" can and will affect the young.'"
Retailers don’t enforce it now from what I can see - cant remember the last time I saw someone get challenged around our area, and have to say the majority of non mask wearers were under 30’s and primarily males, likely giving their ego a boost
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| It really isn't the role of minimum wage shop staff, arguably even security staff, to enforce mask wearing. The conflict and abuse that leads to is not what they are there for.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"It really isn't the role of minimum wage shop staff, arguably even security staff, to enforce mask wearing. The conflict and abuse that leads to is not what they are there for.'"
For once I agree with you ,which is probably why it isn’t challenged - certainly don’t blame them
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"It really isn't the role of minimum wage shop staff, arguably even security staff, to enforce mask wearing. The conflict and abuse that leads to is not what they are there for.'"
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| Quote ="ColD"Retailers don’t enforce it now from what I can see - cant remember the last time I saw someone get challenged around our area, and have to say the majority of non mask wearers were under 30’s and primarily males, likely giving their ego a boost'"
It's certainly been "enforced" in Supermarkets and our local shop but, in fairness, I've never been a big "shopper".
Even pre pandemic, I'd rather buy on line, it's much less hassle (apart from the occasional "bad buy".
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| Silly me when Johnson kept saying it would be irreversible he was actually indicating restrictions could be reapplied. The man is clearly working from the Trump play book, just deny what you have said despite film evidence to the contrary.
We were to introduce a Covid passport, then not, then yes we were then no and now yes again. We had all people ending working from home but now it is no longer the case, fortunately the majority of employers had no intention of acting on this instruction.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Silly me when Johnson kept saying it would be irreversible he was actually indicating restrictions could be reapplied. The man is clearly working from the Trump play book, just deny what you have said despite film evidence to the contrary.
We were to introduce a Covid passport, then not, then yes we were then no and now yes again. We had all people ending working from home but now it is no longer the case, fortunately the majority of employers had no intention of acting on this instruction.'"
Yep, that's how he rolls.
Say whatever is most popular with the masses today and then deny it when it comes back to bite.
The opening up of "everything", at a time when cases are already out of control is like trying to put a fire out with petrol.
There is now talk that "some" restrictions will have to be applied if/when things get worse, but, in Bojo's head, this clearly isn't "reversing" or, maybe he's just forgotten/ignored the "irreversible opening up" comments of just a few weeks ago.
It looks like the "world beating" track and trace system is now to be over ridden so that the economy can open up with "contacts" likely to be allowed to ignore the "ping".
The vaccine roll out seems to have been a huge success, although there are now 1000's of positive cases among those who have been double jabbed and assuming that vaccinated NHS staff, among others, will be told to ignore the "ping", what will this do to the safety of those in hospital.
It's amazing that towns and cities in the North West were virtually "locked down" when cases rose above 200 per 100,000 and yet, now, cases are 500+ per 100,000 and we're still flinging the metaphoric doors open.
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| Freedom day should be renamed to 'Back to lockdown day as you did what we said' day
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| Absolute mayhem on the cards, with Bojo getting pinged but, not having to isolate, due to a previously unknown pilot scheme among some public sector departments.
Does ANYONE actually believe that the virus is under control in the UK ?
We already have absolute mayhem and the doors are fully open tomorrow.
Also, should anyone actually abide with the NHS app.
After all, the PM and Ministers aren't going to and if you haven't downloaded it, you dont have to isolate so, what is the point.
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| I am afraid whilst ever their are people like some on here he won’t care.
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It looks like Robert Jenrick's efforts on the Marr Show, have failed miserably and that Johnson is now going to "isolate" at Chequers and not be part of the "secret" pilot scheme.(U turn time 157 minutes )
As for him not caring, it really is up to the opposition to deal with the teflon PM.
There has been enough of the brown stuff going in his direction to take care of half a dozen PM's but, Labour, sadly are utterly incapable of making any of it stick.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am afraid whilst ever their are people like some on here he won’t care.'"
You are totally deluded, it doesn't matter a jot about people on here or anywhere else for that matter,Boris has zero reason "to care" as long as the opposition is as woeful as they are.Starmer and Labour are nothing more than a minor irritant to the Tories.
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| He can only fool the public for so long not the gullible like you of course before they realise he is taking them for fools. The pandemic will eventually be over despite his many failures with the resulting unnecessary deaths and then where does he hide, I suppose he could find a fridge to seek sanctuary. I expect you are proud of his actions today.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"[uYou are totally deluded, it[/u doesn't matter a jot about people on here or anywhere else for that matter,Boris has zero reason "to care" as long as the opposition is as woeful as they are.Starmer and Labour are nothing more than a minor irritant to the Tories.'"
As a Wakey fan you'll be fully aware of his delusional manner regarding any possible chance to slag off the club, Carter, and Chester, you'll probably be aware also of his constant complaining of the government, those are 2 of the things he gets his pleasure from, but what you don't know is that he takes a size 8 shoe but wears a size 6, that's because when he takes his shoes off, apart from moaning about the club and slating Boris it's the only other bit of pleasure he gets in life.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"He can only fool the public for so long not the gullible like you of course before they realise he is taking them for fools. The pandemic will eventually be over despite his many failures with the resulting unnecessary deaths and then where does he hide, I suppose he could find a fridge to seek sanctuary. I expect you are proud of his actions today.'"
I'm going to regret this, but go on, please tell me which party I should support politically. Because as gullible and foolish as I am I really can't see a credible alternative to the Conservatives.
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| I remember you because you believe you have a sixth sense and know who everybody is, you said my dislike of Carter came from a complaint he made about me regarding chipping on a green. The problem was this was complete garbage because I have never had to chip on a green and I wasn’t even a member of the club it was suppose to have happened.
With regards Chester, yes I believe he has reached his expiry date, in fact I thought this was the case before this season started. I am of course not alone in the belief and the numbers are increasing.
With regards your fellow contributor I really don’t care who you voted for provided you voted. I will however defend the party I voted for and point out the failures which are many of the current PM and his government.
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With regards Chester, yes I believe he has reached his expiry date, in fact I thought this was the case before this season started. I am of course not alone in the belief and the numbers are increasing.
With regards your fellow contributor I really don’t care who you voted for provided you voted. I will however defend the party I voted for and point out the failures which are many of the current PM and his government.'"
That is not what I asked. Who should I support and why? You are saying whoever supports the Conservatives is gullible and foolish. Why not give a positive reason to support another party instead of the constant carping (easy pickings) about the party in power.
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| If you like being lied to, wasting tax payers money, avoiding taking responsibility for thousands of unnecessary deaths, giving contracts to your friends and donors and the beginning of a police state then vote conservative. If you don’t vote for them then you are saying no and want a better country. There you go do you still want to vote if you do for the Conservatives.
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Every government lies.
Every government wastes tax payers money.
Think you will find back in January at PMQ - accepted full responsibility.
Police state ?? - Oh Jeez please.
But not one solitary reason to vote Labour.
Quite possibly one of the worst governments in history,my word did this government get lucky, faced with the worst opposition in history.
Its no good bleating "dont vote for them if you want a better country" - The electorate need to see what the vision of "better" looks like and how it would be achieved with a Labour government,something that seems lost on you.
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Are you a politician? You still haven't given me a positive reason to vote Labour.
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