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| Quote ="Dally"Thought Mintball may have getting a bit hot under the collar. Isn't she an occasional purveyor of filth?'"
Hope so, might arrange some swapsies.
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| Quote ="Dally"Thought Mintball may have getting a bit hot under the collar. Isn't she an occasional purveyor of filth?'"
No idea about the "filth".
Did you think she was "outraged"? I didn't.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Because porn has only existed for 20 years.
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I'm with [url=http://alexnesspoetry.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/porn-began-with-internet.htmlAlex Ness[/url on this issue.
Quote ="Mintball"And not one piece of evidence has been able to prove a link between violence and porn – despite 30 years of concerted attempts to find exactly that.'"
Yes, but we all know that's only because you pervs have deliberately hidden it all
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Speaking of bankers bonuses
A total of 428 employees of Barclays and 93 at RBS earned more than £1m last year.
Five members of staff were paid more than £5m, the Barclays said, but they did not include the chief executive, Antony Jenkins, who received £2.6m.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21715167
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Speaking of bankers bonuses
A total of 428 employees of Barclays and 93 at RBS earned more than £1m last year.
Five members of staff were paid more than £5m, the Barclays said, but they did not include the chief executive, Antony Jenkins, who received £2.6m.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21715167
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"As I've already said, I've witnessed the damage pornography addiciton can cause.'"
I've personally experienced the damage your brand of religious nutery can cause.
I'll take the porn any time.
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| Quote ="rover49"Hope so, might arrange some swapsies.'"
Damned right! The filthier the better!
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"... there is a proven link between the two.'"
No. There isn't.
There is no such evidence.
Even the massively religiously-influenced government of Tony Blair had to admit exactly that in its consultation for the legislation on 'extreme pornography'. And Christ, it would have been screaming it to the world if such evidence actually existed.
Quote ="kirkstaller"Just my personal experience...'"
Your personal experience does not count as 'evidence' of anything.
Quote ="kirkstaller"JIn the States we had guys coming to our chapel seeking help on an almost weekly basis.'"
Hey up, girls and boys – this explains a lot.
Quote ="kirkstaller"... such as the negative attitudes towards women it cultivates ...'"
Yeah, I've noticed that when watching gay porn – now that [ireally[/i promotes a bad attitude toward women. And goodness – what about lesbian porn made by lesbians for lesbians! Hard to get more negative – not least because it doesn't promote an idea that women are breeding machines who are sluts if they enjoy a shag.
I've also noticed it in the porn that I myself have written, had published and been getting money from for several years. And I'm quite proud to be on a second edition.
Not for the first time, you haven't got a [ufactual [/uclue what you're talking about.
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| I like Porn!
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Pornography ruins countless relationships and it is also responsible for a dramtic increase in sexual violence over the last 20 or so years.
I think it would be better if it weren't as readily available.'"
Never ruined ours - wife loves a bit of woman on woman - and I suspect we are not alone - when it ruins as many lives as religion come back - how is the previous head of the catholic christians in Scotland - typical religious leader hypocrite.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Never ruined ours - wife loves a bit of woman on woman - and I suspect we are not alone - when it ruins as many lives as religion come back - how is the previous head of the catholic christians in Scotland - typical religious leader hypocrite.'"
I don't think that Kirky could care much for Papists tbh.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"I don't think that Kirky could care much for Papists tbh.'"
More than a few US right-wing religious homophobes have subsequently been found in - how shall we put it? - 'compromising' situations.
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| Are Dally and Kirkstaller trying to outdo one another in a 'post the stupidest thread' competition?
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| Another benefit of a ban would be the clsure of seedy dvd shops. Would also free up bandwidth on the internet to allow serious users to work more efficiently.
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| Dally's trolling is becoming more and more obvious.
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| Lots of couples watch pornography together, I appreciate that. But even if both parties are happy with it then it is still damaging to the relationship. Lusting after other people can never be a good thing for our relationships.
I admit that I occasionally have a wandering eye; I daresay my wife does as well. However, what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong and that sexual activity is mean for married couples only. This brings us back to each other, and we have a great sex life.
Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.
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| Quote ="Dally"Another benefit of a ban would be the clsure of seedy dvd shops. Would also free up bandwidth on the internet to allow serious users to work more efficiently.'"
and what about the mainstream type of sex shop? you know the one that sells more than dvds, that aren't "seedy"?
and if freeing up bandwidth to "allow serious users to work more efficiently" allows you more time to troll on forums like this, then i think there should be more porn on the net!!
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Lots of couples watch pornography together, I appreciate that. But even if both parties are happy with it then it is still damaging to the relationship. Lusting after other people can never be a good thing for our relationships.
I admit that I occasionally have a wandering eye; I daresay my wife does as well. However, what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong and that sexual activity is mean for married couples only. This brings us back to each other, and we have a great sex life.
Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'"
my wife and i watch porn together, i watch porn on my own, my wife also watches porn on her own. its not damaged our relationship, and we don't lust after other people. i don't lust after those that i watch in porn films, i've never lusted after other women or slept with other women nor my wife other men. in fact we've been married for 15 years and have 2 kids.
you say that sex is for married couples only? thats your choice more than likely based on your religion, good for you you stick to those principles and i'll stick to mine!
and as for your last point, i don't think anyone in their right mind would try and justify child porn. i've been watching porn for many years and reading/looking at porn for a bit longer, i've never committed a sex crime, i've never thought about committing one. i have a healthy sex life and me AND my wife enjoy what we watch and what we part take in.
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| Quote ="fatboystu"my wife and i watch porn together, i watch porn on my own, my wife also watches porn on her own. its not damaged our relationship, and we don't lust after other people. i don't lust after those that i watch in porn films, i've never lusted after other women or slept with other women nor my wife other men. in fact we've been married for 15 years and have 2 kids.'"
If you aren't lusting after the people in the films, why do you watch it?
Quote you say that sex is for married couples only? thats your choice more than likely based on your religion, good for you you stick to those principles and i'll stick to mine!'"
Your principles are wrong.
Quote and as for your last point, i don't think anyone in their right mind would try and justify child porn. i've been watching porn for many years and reading/looking at porn for a bit longer, i've never committed a sex crime, i've never thought about committing one. i have a healthy sex life and me AND my wife enjoy what we watch and what we part take in.'"
What about people who watch child porn and never do anything to hurt other people? Is that OK?
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| From porn to peadofiles in one easy jump.
The lazy preacher strikes again!
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"If you aren't lusting after the people in the films, why do you watch it?'"
we watch it because we enjoy watching it. i don't lust after the actors/actresses, as to do so would mean i want to have sex with them, i don't. sometimes we watch porn to gain new ideas for our sex life, sometimes that missionary lark gets a bit tedious don't cha think?
do you and your wife watch soap operas? just because you watch eastenders doesn't mean you want to live in albert square, just because you read a recipe book for ideas doesn't mean you want to eat at another mans table.
Quote ="kirkstaller"Your principles are wrong.'"
so says you. i'm happy with my life thanks.
Quote ="kirkstaller"What about people who watch child porn and never do anything to hurt other people? Is that OK?'"
no its not ok. child porn is illegal. engaging in sexual activity with anybody under the age of consent is wrong and illegal. as for people who watch child porn but never hurt other people, these people are, if they were nothing else, an enabler. without them there would be no child porn "industry". so tell me again that they aren't doing anything to hurt other people.
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| Quote ="fatboystu"we watch it because we enjoy watching it. i don't lust after the actors/actresses, as to do so would mean i want to have sex with them, i don't. sometimes we watch porn to gain new ideas for our sex life, sometimes that missionary lark gets a bit tedious don't cha think?'"
What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?
Quote do you and your wife watch soap operas? just because you watch eastenders doesn't mean you want to live in albert square, just because you read a recipe book for ideas doesn't mean you want to eat at another mans table.'"
We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.
Quote no its not ok. child porn is illegal. engaging in sexual activity with anybody under the age of consent is wrong and illegal. as for people who watch child porn but never hurt other people, these people are, if they were nothing else, an enabler. without them there would be no child porn "industry". so tell me again that they aren't doing anything to hurt other people.'"
OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.
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| Quick move the goal posts!!
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?'"
if you'd bothered to read my earlier post you would have seen that i said i've been reading porn longer than i've been watching it.
Quote ="kirkstaller"We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.'"
why would you "pass it off as some kind of research"? do you need to make excuses for everything you do in life?
Quote ="kirkstaller"OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.'"
this seems to be something of an obsession for you, and to be frank it worries me somewhat. in answer to your question however (and at risk of repetition) i oppose any type of child porn. it is illegal, sexual activity with anyone under the age of consent is illegal. so, even if no more was made, by owning or viewing child porn you are breaking the law. on a personal level, the thought of child porn disgusts me, as it should any normal person.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Just my personal experience.
In the States we had guys coming to our chapel seeking help on an almost weekly basis.'" That will be a no and you made it up then.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Dally's trolling is becoming more and more obvious.'" You can't say that.
He will next ask you what you mean by it and then when another poster explains it he will get all upset and sqweam and sqweam until he makes himself sick again.
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