I understand the point, but in my case, one of that poster's stated "very personal beliefs" is that I am Satan. Another is that Jesus shared a garden with his brother's rabbit. The statements don't need ridiculing nor could anyone add to their inherent degree of self-evident ridiculousness. It would be a genuine service to the poster if he could be made to realise how ridiculous these sort of beliefs are. (Though in this case, the words 'duck', 'back' and 'water' for some reason spring to mind).

Well thats it for me then. As long as your beliefs don't stop you from treating anybody any differently then its completely fair enough in my book.

I don't agree with your beliefs at all, but live and let live I say.

They are friends, until the heathens die and burn in a fiery hell that is.

cynic

Friends are people you respect. I wouldn't find it particularly respectful if my 'friends' believed I had been 'deceived by Satan', that I would be going to hell for eternity, and if my 'friends' loved the being that would be sending me there.

Drivel.

If you'd announced your presence on this particular forum by starting a thread on, say, whether tea was better than coffee, the issue of your religious beliefs would hardly have arisen.

You didn't. You announced your presence on the [iSin Bin[/i by starting a thread against equal marriage: not about whether it was good, bad or indifferent, but [iagainst[/i. When questioned as to why you opposed it, you took the first opportunity to proclaim your particular beliefs.

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Ah, but we've done this one before.

Kirkstaller believes (or claims to believe) that "by grace are ye saved through faith".

In other words, deeds make no difference. So as an example, if Hitler had accepted Christ as his personal saviour right at the end, he'd be in heaven right now. I put exactly that illustration to Kirkstaller some time ago and he agreed with it.

My personal problem with Kirkstaller, as he chooses to represent himself here, is that he is a fundamentalist; an extremist. For want of a better way of putting it, and using religious terminology, his religiosity does not see him present a state of grace to the world, but his own belief that he is superior to most of the rest of the world because he has the 'correct' beliefs.

Indeed, his assertions earlier in this thread that god [i:k31bpzvcchooses[/i who is going to go to heaven – illustrates perfectly the showing-off aspect of his testimony. Since the choice is up to his god, why would he bother evangelising? He cannot, by his own logic, make any difference. But he continues nonetheless, passing judgement on the majority of the rest of humanity and condemning them. And he believes (as respresented here) that this special chosen quality he has allows him to decide on other people's lives for them.

I really do not care what people choose to believe. It's none of my business – until they attempt to inflict those beliefs on others, either directly through evangelising or indirectly, by influencing political decisions that impact on others (abortion, equal marriage etc), and most particularly when their only arguments in such circumstances are of the circular variety that we've seen many times now from Kirkstaller.

I've started worshipping the rabbit. I reckon Jesus was talking to him, not kirkstaller.

He was on a mission to heal the bunny of it's myxomatosis when he had the misfortune of bumping into the OP.

I know I shouldn't, but I actually laughed out loud at kirkstaller's account when he said that having surprised "Jesus" in his garden, after a few minutes Jesus said well, would you look at the time, I've got to be somewhere else. Kirkstaller turned round and seizing his chance, Jesus quietly did a runner. You couldn't make it up.

Except he quite probably did.

Get stuffed, I'm formulating the Bunny Gospels as we speak. I might change them a bit as I go, and arbitrarily persecute people along the way for no other reason that it shakes my tree, but the thing with Rabbitism is that when you've got a field full of carrots, some are going to get nibbled.

Rabbitism? I just spoke to a Rabbi I know and he says carrots don't enter into it?

Reminds me of the rabbits that escaped from the tobacco animal testing lab. After an afternoon of tasting freedom, they pigged out in a field of carrots and fell asleep. When they awoke, one says to the other, 'What shall we do now"?
His mate replies, 'I think I'm going to go back'. Why? asks his incredulous friend.

"Well, I'm gasping for a fag".

Don't forget folks, rabbitism is already a long-founded religion with its own bible and everything...



The parable of how the rabbits were driven out of their own territory and their trials and tribulations whilst wandering the wilderness looking for a new home, why, it almost reminds you of a different tribe in a different age doesn't it ?

I'd probably agree with this......You have to remember how long ago the whole Jesus thing was, and how much more 'backward' people were at that time - No TV, no media, just word of mouth....So basically, gossip was the Rupert Murdoch of the day - In the same way that gullible folk are taken in by the Sun and the Mail, so a whole load of people could be taken in by a supposed intellect telling tall tales about a magicman.

At his best, Jesus was just another David Blaine/Derren Brown/Dynamo/etc.....Just imagine a man being able to perform a Dynamo style illusion back in a time when there was no TV, no media, and with it, no modern day cynicism?....With that in mind you can see why he built such a devout following and why such outlandish sounding stories were written about his capabilities - Water to wine, bread and fishes, rising from the dead, they would have been very impressive tricks back in the day (especially the last one!), but, to be honest, they are no more impressive than any illusions or tricks you can see nowadays, yet we don't see anybody proclaiming Derren Brown as the Son of God!!

Try and cast this repugnant thought from your mind Kirkstaller but I'd reckon Woody and his jezebel will have been flat out over Xmas and the New Year.

I don't have a choice in this.

The Holy Rabbit made that rabbit noise towards me, He was speaking in teeth, and I was overcome.

My destiny became to save TGG's community from the mouth of the Fiery Fox.

Unless The Holy Rabbit decided many carrot harvests ago that he didn't appreciate your cuddles and snuffling of His Divine Fur, in which case, you're knacked.

I'm alright though and I shall suckle at The Promised Upside Down Water Bottle for all eternity.

Won't stop Rabbiting on every thread like a massive gormclops though.

Kirkstaller: I'm still waiting for simple 'yes' or 'no' answers to my earlier questions. No measly, winding words trying to avoid the question, just an honest answer is all that's required.

Have you read the Koran? And if so, what makes you convinced that your god is the only true god? If not, how can you put all non Christians down as sinners without looking further abroad?

Simple answers please.

Don't threads normally get locked when they drift this far off topic. Oh, you're all ganging up on Kirkstaller again....

He'll get back to you when he's read what Ray "Bananaman" Comfort has to say on the subject.

Getting back to Kirkstallers original post on this subject.... What amuses me greatly is that the Daily Wail's opinion of the intellectual capacity of their reader base makes them deem it essential to inform everyone which is Woody and which is Holly in the photograph The original link posted below to save everyone the trouble of finding it again. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... telli.html TG. PS I still reckon that Woody's wife is much better looking than his bit on the side.

Getting back to Kirkstallers original post on this subject.... What amuses me greatly is that the Daily Wail's opinion of the intellectual capacity of their reader base makes them deem it essential to inform everyone which is Woody and which is Holly in the photograph The original link posted below to save everyone the trouble of finding it again. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... telli.html TG. PS I still reckon that Woody's wife is much better looking than his bit on the side.

They did similar with another male/female pic the other day too

Actually I think it's very forward thinking of the Mail. How would you know which one is which? You could take a guess but then you would be gender-stereotyping.

Wow.

Lots of questions and thinly-veiled bigotry.

I'm not sure I quite have the energy to continue to offer pearls to pigs. Some might interpret that as a sign of defeat, but I've hung in on this thread for 35 pages and I've not been shy about my opinions.

I'm sure there have been many genuine questions on here; I continue to pray for Sanjunien and his family, and I'd also like to thank certain other users for rightly condemning bullying.

On the other hand we have moderators/admins with their own prejudices. One of them has a mighty big chip on their shoulder but I refuse to engage with them.

No doubt every other thread I start will descend into a similar discussion (it's already started) but in the meantime if anyone has any genuine questions I always answer my PMs.

Kirkstaller