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| Quote ="ThePrinter"*BTW are the 8% of black people who voted for Trump and the 28% of Hispanics & Latinos who did likewise white racists too???'"
I saw a US analyst suggest that in this particular demographic, their sexism overcame what would appear to be a natural opposition to Trump; in short, they'd rather have him, than a woman, in the top job.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I saw a US analyst suggest that in this particular demographic, their sexism overcame what would appear to be a natural opposition to Trump; in short, they'd rather have him, than a woman, in the top job.'"
The lunatic fringe of the liberal left won't know where to direct their outrage with that one.
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It's no use arguing unless we get our facts straight (unless you are Trump)
"7% of Americans have a passport." No. It's about 46%.
www.theexpeditioner.com/2010/02/ ... assport-2/
" Around 70% of Americans have never travelled more than 30 miles from where they were born."
This does not meet the large numbers who use both intranational and international transport. I always wonder who comes up with such statistics ... they've been overturned even for the Middle Ages.
Anyway, in 2014, passenger miles for cars etc. came to 4,371,706,000,000 which with a population of about 320,000,000 suggests an average travel of 13,709 miles so they travel that 30 miles 459 times a year.
No wonder they voted Trump, that's a lot of journeys with no change of scenery.
www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita. ... 01_40.html
Trump used lies and myths, that's why he was and is wrong.
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It's no use arguing unless we get our facts straight (unless you are Trump)
"7% of Americans have a passport." No. It's about 46%.
www.theexpeditioner.com/2010/02/ ... assport-2/
" Around 70% of Americans have never travelled more than 30 miles from where they were born."
This does not meet the large numbers who use both intranational and international transport. I always wonder who comes up with such statistics ... they've been overturned even for the Middle Ages.
Anyway, in 2014, passenger miles for cars etc. came to 4,371,706,000,000 which with a population of about 320,000,000 suggests an average travel of 13,709 miles so they travel that 30 miles 459 times a year.
No wonder they voted Trump, that's a lot of journeys with no change of scenery.
www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita. ... 01_40.html
Trump used lies and myths, that's why he was and is wrong.
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| End of the day he's only a front man for the real people who run the country. It's going to be hilarious watching him for the next 4 years. I remember when Ali G interviewed him and his "business was even being done hundreds of millions of years ago" quote
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| Quote ="Lebron James"End of the day he's only a front man for the real people who run the country.'"
Bang on. The smartest most powerful people don't put themselves in the public eye. They were there before Trump, before Obama and will be there pulling the strings after Trump has gone.
The US president the most powerful man in the world? He's about as powerful as a checkout girl at Tesco.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Bang on. The smartest most powerful people don't put themselves in the public eye. They were there before Trump, before Obama and will be there pulling the strings after Trump has gone.
The US president the most powerful man in the world? He's about as powerful as a checkout girl at Tesco.'"
Do you feel the same way about the British establishment?
If so, why did you bother voting for Brexit?
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Do you feel the same way about the British establishment?
If so, why did you bother voting for Brexit?'"
I didn't vote for Brexit.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I saw a US analyst suggest that in this particular demographic, their sexism overcame what would appear to be a natural opposition to Trump; in short, they'd rather have him, than a woman, in the top job.'"
I love the fact their has to be some sort of prejudice that serves as motivation. If isn't racism, it's sexism. If it isn't sexism, it's homophobia. If it isn't homophobia, it's xenophobia. God forbid some actually think Clinton would be worse than Trump.
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| He didn't get the protest vote, Dem's just didn't vote in the same way they did for BO.
Trump's putting together some cabinet, they'll be no stopping him with the senate and congress. And he'll get probably the next 4 on the supreme court.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Imo i think Hillary would have been a bigger worry in that regards. Donald may not turn out to be the white knight the average american man is hoping he will be, be he sure as hell scares me a lot less than her on the world stage.'"
Exactly.
She was being bankrolled by nine out of the ten biggest global arms manufacturers and who can forget how she gleefully laughed on camera upon hearing of the death of a leader she helped to illegally depose.
It was a choice between a nationalist sexist biggot or a globalist neo-liberal warmonger - I would have refused to vote for either personally.
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| Quote ="LeighGionaire"It was a choice between a nationalist sexist biggot or a globalist neo-liberal warmonger - I would have refused to vote for either personally.'"
Which is still an option for the electoral college - they have the option of becoming a 'faithless elector' and voting against their candidate, or for neither; can't see it happening, but it is an outside chance.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Which is still an option for the electoral college - they have the option of becoming a 'faithless elector' and voting against their candidate, or for neither; can't see it happening, but it is an outside chance.'"
I'm surprised that more hasn't been made of the FBI's intervention.
2 weeks to go to polling day, Clinton with a 7 point lead in the polls and they go public on the e mail investigation, which has still come to nothing.
What was their motivation and why make such a noise in public, so close to polling day
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| What happened 2/3 weeks before polling - all this stuff about Trump and the women - why didn't this come out earlier?
Because nobody thought he had a chance - soon as it became evident he did what happened?
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| I don't see what the the big deal is. No ones gonna start any world wars. Nuclear arms prevent that. You have nukes, so do we, if we start using them we'll destroy each other.
I think we'll see trump transition now into something more ''presidential''. I think he's very clever and took on the persona he did because he knew there were voters he could tap into who were sick of politicians. From what I've seen and read trump voting Americans seemed to understand this. One guy interviewed had never voted before...in his life. He said he would probably get down to vote for trump, his reason? He needed to put food on the table. He needed to feed his family and he believed trump would give a better chance of an improvement in his circumstances than Clinton.
Anyway, some are speculating trump winning over clinton will work out better for us in light of brexit, every cloud eh?
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Bang on. The smartest most powerful people don't put themselves in the public eye. They were there before Trump, before Obama and will be there pulling the strings after Trump has gone.
The US president the most powerful man in the world? He's about as powerful as a checkout girl at Tesco.'"
They're all just puppets.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"I don't see what the the big deal is. No ones gonna start any world wars. Nuclear arms prevent that. You have nukes, so do we, if we start using them we'll destroy each other.
I think we'll see trump transition now into something more ''presidential''. I think he's very clever and took on the persona he did because he knew there were voters he could tap into who were sick of politicians. From what I've seen and read trump voting Americans seemed to understand this. One guy interviewed had never voted before...in his life. He said he would probably get down to vote for trump, his reason? He needed to put food on the table. He needed to feed his family and he believed trump would give a better chance of an improvement in his circumstances than Clinton.
Anyway, some are speculating trump winning over clinton will work out better for us in light of brexit, every cloud eh?'"
There is little doubt that he will become "more presidential", after all, after the way that he behaved during the campaign, it would be impossible to be less so.
However, that just doesn't excuse some of the stuff that he said, which, was "over the line", especially for a person wanting the highest political position in the world.
He wasn't a bloke down the pub, who had had a bit to drink, he was, campaigning for the top job.
For all of our sake's, we have to hope that those around him will exert some control and act as the voice of reason.
As for improving "our" position after Brexit, we still have to see whether our own parliament goes through with it.
As the months have passed since the referendum, fewer and fewer MP's seem willing to go through with it.
The political landscape is changing and not necessarily for the better, the days of politicians having ideals and principles is long gone, which is a crying shame.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I'm surprised that more hasn't been made of the FBI's intervention.
2 weeks to go to polling day, Clinton with a 7 point lead in the polls and they go public on the e mail investigation, which has still come to nothing.
What was their motivation and why make such a noise in public, so close to polling day'"
Why would anything more be made of it? We all what happened. We all know HC isn't going to jail and we know every threat won't happen. In political contests we can now say what we want, there's no come back.
Draintheswamp = increase the swamp, look what's he's doing right now!
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"What happened 2/3 weeks before polling - all this stuff about Trump and the women - why didn't this come out earlier?
Because nobody thought he had a chance - soon as it became evident he did what happened?'"
Earlier? They brought it out to early, trump timed the fbi email dump to perfection.
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| Quote ="bren2k"
The world is proving in 2016 that democracy is not always a good thing; a benevolent dictatorship would probably be a better arrangement.'"
I'll go for that but only if I'm allowed to be Emperor.
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Quote ="King Street Cat"The lunatic fringe of the liberal left won't know where to direct their outrage with that one.'"
Na mate, they already tarred the white working class as the villains, just ask Penny Toynbee. It the 'whitelash' apparently.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... not-pander
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Quote ="King Street Cat"The lunatic fringe of the liberal left won't know where to direct their outrage with that one.'"
Na mate, they already tarred the white working class as the villains, just ask Penny Toynbee. It the 'whitelash' apparently.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... not-pander
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Earlier? They brought it out to early, trump timed the fbi email dump to perfection.'"
Those podesta emails were staggering. Especially the ones with code words such as "hot dog". How on earth Hilary Clinton wasn't investigated further is beyond me. Mind you, people used to hark on about pedophiles within the BBC for years before it all came to light only to be shot down
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Take anything Polly says with a pinch of salt, she's the archetypal champagne socialist. What she fails to acknowledge, either by design or righteous ignorance, is that the "right on" social causes she supports long ago got hijacked by commercially driven, rent seeking, policy entrepreneurs looking to develop revenue streams out of narratives of perpetual grievance and entitlement. Polly's fellow travellers have no interest in trying to resolve the issues they espouse, if any of their causes actually do improve they simply find an innovative new interpretation to justify ongoing rent seeking. The"whitewash" is no such thing, people have just wised up that even the self-proclaimed "good guys" are on the gravy train.
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Take anything Polly says with a pinch of salt, she's the archetypal champagne socialist. What she fails to acknowledge, either by design or righteous ignorance, is that the "right on" social causes she supports long ago got hijacked by commercially driven, rent seeking, policy entrepreneurs looking to develop revenue streams out of narratives of perpetual grievance and entitlement. Polly's fellow travellers have no interest in trying to resolve the issues they espouse, if any of their causes actually do improve they simply find an innovative new interpretation to justify ongoing rent seeking. The"whitewash" is no such thing, people have just wised up that even the self-proclaimed "good guys" are on the gravy train.
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"Take anything Polly says with a pinch of salt, she's the archetypal champagne socialist. What she fails to acknowledge, either by design or righteous ignorance, is that the "right on" social causes she supports long ago got hijacked by commercially driven, rent seeking, policy entrepreneurs looking to develop revenue streams out of narratives of perpetual grievance and entitlement. Polly's fellow travellers have no interest in trying to resolve the issues they espouse, if any of their causes actually do improve they simply find an innovative new interpretation to justify ongoing rent seeking. The"whitewash" is no such thing, people have just wised up that even the self-proclaimed "good guys" are on the gravy train.'"
That's capitalism for you.
The theory about having ambition making some money is ok but, there has to be some social conscience that comes with it or, we wnd up with people being exploited by the greedy and needy.
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| The biggest surprise in all this is that we haven't got a massively overused buzzword for the Trump supporting collective. Trumpers? Trumpets? Trumpeteers? Trumpions? Trumpxiteers?
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| In another move towards healing some of the divides within the US, Trump appoints Stephen Bannon, a white supremacist as his new chief strategist.
It may not just be the Muslims and Mexicans that have to worry ?
There appear to be some dark times ahead as more and more countries lurch to the right to solve their political and economic problems.
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