My mum was religious, got cancer and pretty much got on with life. God was less important to her tbh. She didn't get cured, but i doubt she'd have gone evangelical if she had.

But it could have been. That was the point. Your meeting turned you into an evangelist, and assume you believe the world would be a better place if everyone believed as you do, so why not visit someone like Obama and spread the word quicker? or Why not visit Mao or Hitler and stop some of the horrors they committed?
Why, considering he can visit people as you purport, didnt he visit someone who would have been useful instead of some nobody in Leeds? It is apparently over 2000 years since his last visit, why did he choose to visit you and allow the terrible things man has done since then to continue? Why was your evangelizing more important than appearing to say Adam Lanza?

Its less that you spoke to him that im questioning. Its that he spoke to you. Which means he had a voice, spoke a language, and can when he chooses communicate with us. So when he doesnt, he is choosing not to, and as such is responsible for the consequences of that choice.

Well Woody is going out with a porn star and there's a 2nd coming, there's a joke in there somewhere.

Appreciated, thank you.



I accept it's an ommission, but by no means a fatal one. Particularly if Matthew's Gospel was already in circulation.



I am not concerned by this as Luke says Jesus was placed in a manger [iafter [/i his birth. Matthew says that the Magi came to visit the Messiah at a house. There is no inconsistency here.



So your argument has now been reduced to "erm, the odds are the Bible is wrong"?



Jesus had never been there though. The prophecy applies to him, not Mary and Joseph.



Actually the synoptic Gospels tell a very different story. You only have to look at Jesus' wandering ministry to see that freedom of movement was permitted within Galilee, Judea, Samaria etc. It was only Jesus' miracles and wisdom which caused him grief at the hands of the religious Jews.



No, the only holes you have picked are founded on a hazy memory of the scriptures and a bizarre assessment of probability.



Emmanuel, Christ, the Word, the Son of Man, the Light of the World......there are many more names for the Jewish Messiah than Yeshua.



John 10:30
John 8:38

S. Kirkstaller found some beardy bloke about to burgle his shed and was stupid enough to believe him when he said he was Jesus. What a massive bellend.

His first thought was Jesus Christ, nothing wrong there!

Nearly everyone at my church has met Jesus in a similar fashion. Such occurrences are not as rare as you would like to make out. Indeed, who is to say that he has not visited the people you mention and they have chosen to ignore him? It certainly wouldn't have been the first time the Son of God has been ignored.

I can just picture the pious s now:

"Jesus visited me in my garden."

"So, what? Jesus visited me in my garden and pruned my begonias."

"That's nothing, Jesus weeded my flower beds and laid me a new drive."

Tossbags.

sounds to me like you got some strange guy with a beard wandering around your area claiming to be the son of god in your area then.


You haven't met the son of God, as no God exists. Just get on with enjoying your time alive rather than fretting about what happens afterwards ( nothing happens by the way)

We've all been there... www.moillusions.com/2006/03/jesus-illusion.html

We've all been there... www.moillusions.com/2006/03/jesus-illusion.html

If you catch him, he tells you he's Jesus and quotes a few Bible verses at you. If you don't catch him, he nicks your lawnmower.

Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"We've all been there... www.moillusions.com/2006/03/jesus-illusion.html'" Nah that ain't him, Jesus was sporting a trimmed beard, obviously nipped to Boots to purchase a trimmer before the visit.

Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"We've all been there... www.moillusions.com/2006/03/jesus-illusion.html'" Nah that ain't him, Jesus was sporting a trimmed beard, obviously nipped to Boots to purchase a trimmer before the visit.

Bad Jesus!

I would doubt that Kirkstaller is achieving in the area of bringing people to God.
I see no evidence of any support or conversions.
Not that evidence is important where faith is concerned of course.
It must be soul-destroying doing God's work on a forum like this.
God needs to review his selection process.

No. You wrong. You are stating that you saw and spoke to Jesus. As have many people at your church.

You are stating that Jesus spoke to you, not in some vague bull 'feeling' which you want to attribute to jesus, you arent stating that there was some phenomena that you interpreted as jesus. You arent even arguing that you have faith.

You are saying that Jesus spoke to you, you met him and air passed over his glottis in the larynx, was modified by the vocal tract, jaw, lips, tongue etc in sound waves which travelled through the air, into your ear, you recognised these as vowels and consonants which formed words and sentences using grammar and language which you processed as information.

That didnt happen through faith, it happened (if we suspend any sense of logic and pretend it really did happen) through well understood and commonly known processes. It isnt a matter of faith to (from your point of view) believe this. If you did see this, then the rational and logical response would be to accept it, to ignore it would be a real leap of faith, one you have explained that you 'a believer' werent prepared to make.

Nothing against "God botherers" if they keep their beliefs to themselves. But no they have to force it down all our throats - as shown in the OP:




It tends not to be your 'run of your mill catholics...etc' it's these 'born agains' that are the problem. Years ago I used to work with a girl who was just the same...found god when her boyfriend at the time was run over and killed. What a pain in the ar$e she was at work, quoting this quoting that.

Had she been praying for his demise?

Has anyone else noticed the irony of Kirkstallers name?

In that he is a success at least.

What exactly is wrong about that?



I have saving faith.



Yes, Jesus spoke to me. Well done, you got there in the end.

You might be interested to know that I'm not just typing this; my fingertips are touching the keyboard very fast and the keys are sending electronic impulses through a computer to make text appear on screen.



What isn't a matter of faith? Did I ever tout it as something that you have to believe in order for it to happen?

BTW the biblical definition of faith is not the atheistic 'belief without evidence'. It means trust and believing what has been promised to you from God.

[uNoah's Ark[/u

[i300 cubit's by 50 by 30. (440ft long x 73ft wide x 43ft high).[/i

[uMystery 1[/u Managed to fit in Noah, his family and every single species of animal in the world (x2). ?????

[uMystery 2[/u The Ark came to rest on the upper slops of Mt Ararat which is 5,100+ metres above sea level. This would have meant that the world-wide flood would have to have been in excess of 5,100 metres.

Where did the water come from?
Where did it go?


There's more accuracy in a Marvel comic than there is in the bible.

I'm a bit surprised at the response to Kirkstaller's beliefs tbh. It is not our beliefs that are critical but our actions. If I believe in a god then what does it matter as long as I live my life in an ethical way?

Well, I actually spoke to God on my way home from work the other night, so there!




OK, I admit that I'd come home via the Rose & Crown, and conversed through that wonderful aid, the big white megaphone