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| Quote ="Starbug"I wonder how they go on in Pamplona with H and S when they let the bulls loose?'"
Its only held every year when the H&S safety officer for the town goes on his holiday to the coast, its supposed to be a big secret and the only way to find when its hosted every year is to keep an eye on the H&S officers Twitter feed, when he first mentions the date of his holidays, thats when you book your flights.
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| My grandparents used to live 10 minutes' walk from Coopers Hill. Its bloody steep. Anyone wanting to run down there, cheese or no, is taking a risk. Why on earth that can't be entirely their own responsibility to do so is beyond me.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"My grandparents used to live 10 minutes' walk from Coopers Hill. Its bloody steep. Anyone wanting to run down there, cheese or no, is taking a risk. Why on earth that can't be entirely their own responsibility to do so is beyond me.'"
These days many people is looking are looking for some one to blame or looking for something to be offended by.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"These days many people is looking are looking for some one to blame or looking for something to be offended by.'"
You been on the p!ss as well?
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| I'm surprised at this when there are so many fatalities at the TT races.
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| Don't the majority of TT casualties involve non-competitors "having a go"?
Anyway, the TT brings in huge amounts of business and cash for the IoM so there's no way plod would be doing anything whatsoever to stop that event - even though it is a million times more dangerous than running down a grassy bank. If it was held in Gloucester, maybe Honda would get their collars felt and warned as to their potential liabilities for supplying the bikes?
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| The police aren't too bothered about the people rolling down a hill.
It's the 15,000 spectators who turned up at the last event that they are worried about. That many people on a steep hill with no barriers? Great idea.
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| Again, its people's own risk. Its a hill in the middle of nowhere, not an arena. Or are people now so immersed in the world of tweets that they expect safety measures to be the same standard on top of a hill as at Wembley?
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| Quote ="Vince Noir"The police aren't too bothered about the people rolling down a hill.'"
Seemingly, they are. Otherwise they would not warn off providers of cheeses for rolling down same.
Quote ="Vince Noir"It's the 15,000 spectators who turned up at the last event that they are worried about.'"
Why, what dreadful misfortune befell them?
Quote ="Vince Noir" That many people on a steep hill with no barriers? Great idea.'"
It's a grassy bank, ffs. If you are worried about lots of people on steep hills, I suggest you steer clear of the Lake District.
Unbelievable.
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| TBF FA 15k people packed on a steep grassy hillside isn't something I've seen very often in the Lake District.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"TBF FA 15k people packed on a steep grassy hillside isn't something I've seen very often in the Lake District.'"
Never been to Ben Nevis in July, then
TBF if I was doing Striding Edge and fell off, I'd actually appreciate 15,000 bodies to halt my fall.
In fact, that's probably about what it would take.
The point is that humans and steep hills, even cliffs, can get along perfectly well, without "barriers". Have done for hundreds of thousands of years.
Also, AFAIK (I haven't been) the speccies stay at the top. Presumably on account of if they all stood on the hill, it would rather spoil the event. Looks that way on this image:
But if you want masses on steep grassy (and anything else) banks then just go to any stage of the RAC rally. There'll be approx. 100,000 - 200,000 speccies and they will especially seek out any steep grassy slope overlooking the track. Anywhere along the miles of the stage. In any given season, tens of millions will attend these events, across te globe. You very often see this sort of thing.
. I have yet to hear of any mayhem caused by the co-incidence of humans and these slopes. Indeed the ones at most risk are those at the bottom, and that's from out of control rally cars, not falling bodies. In years gone by, this was still the case, despite the stages often taking place at night, and in snow and ice. All these people somehow seemed to beat the seemingly huge odds and managed to survive unscathed, despite the protection of the Gloucestershire constabulary.
It really is a non-point, though I don't find it surprising that there are people prepared to advance it. Whatever dotty H&S bullcrap anyone ever dreams up, however ridiculous, there are always some anal people who nod sagely in agreement.
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| Sadly, Gloucs. police aren't the only ones worried. Following the tragic death of a photographer and surfer, who may have been filming a local whirlpool, DC Ayling of Devon & Cornwall police was quoted thus:
Quote Det Con Ayling said police were warning people to stay away from whirlpools.
He said: "I knew nothing about this whirlpool issue, but since seeing footage online it's quite clear that getting into the water by a whirlpool is so dangerous.
... Our advice is stay away from whirlpools.'"
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| Quote ="peggy"I'm surprised at this when there are so many fatalities at the TT races.'"
There are know organisers and the competitors have to have a degree of competence (in the same way that you or I can't just turn up and drive a formula one car.)
Members of the public who ride the circuit are not doing so in an organised fashion nor are they competing. I've ridden the circuit many times myself and found it one of the most exhilarating legal experiences I've had.
As for the cheese maker, I think the Police were simply making all those involved aware of their possible responsibilities. I did't read anywhere that the Police told them not to do it.
Could it be that an "ambulance chaser" has been crawling out from under a stone?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Sadly, Gloucs. police aren't the only ones worried. Following the tragic death of a photographer and surfer, who may have been filming a local whirlpool, DC Ayling of Devon & Cornwall police was quoted thus:
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I'm really glad that you highlighted this, I really hadn't a clue how dangerous whirlpools could be, what with them whirling and all that, the very next time I see one I'll be sure to stand in front of it and wave people past telling them to take care and not get into the whirlpool for fear that harm may come.
We need the police to tell us things like this.
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| I was once about to have a little paddle in a volcano, luckily, the rozzers told me I might scald my tootsies.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"I'm really glad that you highlighted this, I really hadn't a clue how dangerous whirlpools could be, what with them whirling and all that, the very next time I see one I'll be sure to stand in front of it and wave people past telling them to take care and not get into the whirlpool for fear that harm may come.
We need the police to tell us things like this.'"
Indeed. What we need, I think, is a special Police Banal Warnings Division. Budgets are stretched, but this is important work, in the seemingly herculean task of preventing us lemming-like mortals from self-harm.
Luckily, the BBC is there to lend a hand. In a [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-22706881mildly interesting piece[/url pointing out that some pedestrian crossings have a tactile revolving cone underneath the button box, for the benefit of deaf/blind etc. people to signify that the green man is on by touch, the author, or the storycheckers responsible for deciding if this material is safe to unleash on the non-vision/haring impaired majority, helpfully said:
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You could try it out for yourself. Do as blind people do and stand at the crossing with your hand jammed under the control box waiting for the cone to spin. Beware, in winter do it with gloves on, that metal control box can be freezing cold.'"
Phew. A close call, but the potential catastrophe of hundreds of unsuspecting non-impaired people having to have their freeze-welded hands removed from crossing boxes has mercifully been averted.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Indeed.
Phew. A close call, but the potential catastrophe of hundreds of unsuspecting non-impaired people having to have their freeze-welded hands removed from crossing boxes has mercifully been averted.'"
Reminds me of the "older kids" who used to tell the "younger kids" to put their tongue onto a frozen metal lamp post
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"I was once about to have a little paddle in a volcano, luckily, the rozzers told me I might scald my tootsies.'"
There's a small volcanic island, just off the coast of Kos called Nisyros. Day trips are available from Kardamena.
On one visit we decided to take the guided tour of the volcano. Everyone was told to keep strictly to the marked paths and not touch anything. We all obeyed the advice except one American woman who, for reasons best known to herself, decided to dip her foot into a pool of fuming and bubbling water. It came out looking like a recently-boiled ham shank.
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| A shame they didn't warn themselves about the vehicle rolling at Pudsey Park on Saturday night .
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| The coppers are going to be mega busy in the future, what with 16,000 less of them how on earth will they police cheese rolling now they have to chase middle lane huggers and tail gaters. At least the muggers, drug dealers, human traffickers etc will be safe while they concentrate on important things.
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| I was at red traffic lights a while back and one of the typical boy racers that are now prevalent couldn't be d queuing, so overtook the whole queue and then pulled in across the bows of the lead car, almost knocking over an elderly woman who was starting to cross from the left. Offences: driving without due consideration for other road users; failing to stop at a red light (because he had completely crossed the stop line).
The wife took images on her phone of him, and his car in position showing the lights, and his reg no. and tried to give the info to the police. They were amazingly reluctant to become involved. Eventually they came back to us with the claim that unless there are at least two independent witnesses, they/CPS will do nothing.
And as the chances of a police car witnessing the event are vanishingly small, (and if it was a panda or a van they'd ignore it anyway) the scrotes know that they can drive like this, and worse, with impunity.
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| Our car and several others got a good keying from some passing scrote over the weekend. I don't know how many cars were involved but the total value of repairs for the dozen or so we saw would be maybe ten grand.
Over the phone they just wanted to give me a crime number but would send a plod out "if I insisted". One duly came and took details from all concerned. A little later got a call explaining that as we could not give the name and address of the offender, and there were no witnesses, and nobody had it on video, they were closing their file. But gave me a crime number.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Our car and several others got a good keying from some passing scrote over the weekend. I don't know how many cars were involved but the total value of repairs for the dozen or so we saw would be maybe ten grand.
Over the phone they just wanted to give me a crime number but would send a plod out "if I insisted". One duly came and took details from all concerned. A little later got a call explaining that as we could not give the name and address of the offender, and there were no witnesses, and nobody had it on video, they were closing their file. But gave me a crime number.'"
Similar thing happened to me when we got broken into a few years ago, they sent a SOC bloke down, but he never even took finger prints of the window frame where they got in, stating 'all good burglars were gloves' to which I replied 'perhaps these were crap burglars'. We got a crime number for the insurance and nothing more was done. I was advised (separately) by a copper that if I went to Elephant & Castle pub or Humber Social Club I was likely to see someone flogging my stuff, if this was the case whey the f'ck won't the coppers go to these places and nick the scrotes (they had all the serial numbers for my nicked stuff).
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| As there is already a law related thread I'll not start another....
Check out the new fixed penalty prices coming to a lay-by near you soon.
Also read a 'hogging the middle lane' penalty is £100 also.
Thoughts?
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