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| Blimey. That was so surreal it could have been penned by Dalí.
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"Quote ="Chris28" Some of this praise of the Daily Mail is pretty sickening tbh'"
I don't remember a national newspaper,before or since,risking the law of libel in this country,in pursuit of justice.'"
Yes, in 1997, almost 4 years after the murder. How outraged were they in 1993? How many times did they repeat the accusation after 1997? Who met the Home Secretary to discuss the case - Paul Dacre? Why was MacPherson started?
The Mail taking the credit for yesterday - have a look at Dacre's 12 minute (yes, 12) speech about it - takes a hell of a lot from the Lawrences, Duwayne Brooks, the forensic team, the CPS and counsel (all of whom Mr Lawrence praised yesterday as "faultless"icon_wink.gif.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Blimey. That was so surreal it could have been penned by Dalí.'"
I'd love to see a graphic of the mind-map that takes us from Soham to the 7/7 bombings, while all the time, keeping the Lawrences in the loop
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Quote ="Mintball"Blimey. That was so surreal it could have been penned by Dalí.'"
I'd love to see a graphic of the mind-map that takes us from Soham to the 7/7 bombings, while all the time, keeping the Lawrences in the loop'"
That would look like it was painted, I suspect, less by Dalí and more by Pollock.
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| Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"
Perhaps cod'head feels - just like he does regarding HULL FC - that once a person leaves office they are no longer held responsible.
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Without wishing to go o/t and to support Coddy, around 12,000 other people in Hull feel the same way
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| Quote ="Mintball"..
That would look like it was painted, I suspect, less by Dalí and more by Pollock.'"
Can it be pure co-incidence that we have, on these very boards, the posters Dallí, and the above Píllock?
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| 14 and 15 years respectively according to BBC ticker.
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| I have to say that they will have a difficult time in prison. They will be targetted something rotten
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"I have to say that they will have a difficult time in prison. They will be targetted something rotten'"
Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
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| Quote ="Chris28"14 and 15 years respectively according to BBC ticker.'"
Those have been given as the minimum each will serve.
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| Very pleased with those sentances, about time we had a judge who had the balls to impose such sentances, but, are we any wiser as to who actually knifed Stephen Lawrence?
Next case up...Winston Silcott
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| Quote ="Live Wired"Very pleased with those sentances, about time we had a judge who had the balls to impose such sentances, but, are we any wiser as to who actually knifed Stephen Lawrence?'"
No.
The judge made clear, in his sentencing today, that the two who have been sentenced know who did it, knew that someone had a knife, did nothing about that (in other words, "approved" of it) and have subsequently refused to tell the truth of what went on and, in Dobson's case (IIRC) actually lied to help cover up the truth.
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I'll bite. What will that be for?
Are you going to respond to [url=http://viewtopic.php?p=16642077#p16642077this[/url, by the way?
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| Quote ="Chris28"14 and 15 years respectively according to BBC ticker.'"
Longer than I anticipated, given the restrictions on length of sentencing due to age at the time etc. Those sentences are probably on a par with "normal" murder sentences, and as such are certainly longer than I expected.
They're gonna find life difficult inside, wherever they go. Doubtless they'll end up in VPU but I doubt they'll be safe even there. I wonder if the little birds will now start to sing?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Quote ="Chris28"14 and 15 years respectively according to BBC ticker.'"
They're gonna find life difficult inside, wherever they go. Doubtless they'll end up in VPU but I doubt they'll be safe even there. I wonder if the little birds will now start to sing?'"
Especially given the disproportionate number of black inmates.
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| Dally starts another thread, I suspect with a little fishing
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| Now - and rather unusually - published online, the [url=http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/sentencing-remarks-dobson-norris-120104.pdfJudge's full sentencing comments[/url
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Now - and rather unusually - published online, the [url=http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/sentencing-remarks-dobson-norris-120104.pdfJudge's full sentencing comments[/url'"
Paragraphs 21 and 22 should be included in every TV/radio report and every newspaper report of any similar sentence in future.
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| What was the new technique in CSI that helped them find them stains and fibres that finally put these people away? Anyone know?
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| I think it was that modern DNA techniques can get a full profile from comparatively microscopic samples
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| Well it certainly looks like this one still has some legs
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-copper-the-lawrence-killers-father-and-secret-police-files-that-expose-a-corrupt-relationship-7537762.htmlThe bent rozzer, the Lawrence killer's dad and secret police files[/url
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