No links on this post, bud.
You seem to be mistaken, again

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Which bit isn’t true? All evidenced below Trump praises Boris Johnson as ‘right man for the time’ and calls for pact with Farage https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.expr ... brexit/amp Lowering food safety regulations to US standards would mean allowing sale of products containing rodent hair, animal faeces and maggots https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.inde ... html%3famp Private firms given £9.2bn of NHS budget despite Hancock promise https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... ck-promise US wants access to NHS in post-Brexit deal, says Trump ally https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... to-uk-says'" Grow up There is no way any leader of the free world would endorse Corbyn - Trump or otherwise Outsourcing of NHS to private is 7% it was 6% under Labour - fake news Lowering food standards - doesn't mean we have to buy their food - it will not be compulsory you know. We want access to the EU without paying anything for it doesn't mean we are going to get it - same goes for the US - the trade deals the US did with Canada and Australia both excluded their health sectors - all US drug firms have access to the NHS now. All this talk was a study done by 3 academics which calculated if the spending/person on drugs matched the US then spending would rise by £500m/week - there is no where in the world where spending on drugs is as high as the states - so why would it automatically happen here - again fake news

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Which bit isn’t true? All evidenced below Trump praises Boris Johnson as ‘right man for the time’ and calls for pact with Farage https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.expr ... brexit/amp Lowering food safety regulations to US standards would mean allowing sale of products containing rodent hair, animal faeces and maggots https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.inde ... html%3famp Private firms given £9.2bn of NHS budget despite Hancock promise https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... ck-promise US wants access to NHS in post-Brexit deal, says Trump ally https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... to-uk-says'" Grow up There is no way any leader of the free world would endorse Corbyn - Trump or otherwise Outsourcing of NHS to private is 7% it was 6% under Labour - fake news Lowering food standards - doesn't mean we have to buy their food - it will not be compulsory you know. We want access to the EU without paying anything for it doesn't mean we are going to get it - same goes for the US - the trade deals the US did with Canada and Australia both excluded their health sectors - all US drug firms have access to the NHS now. All this talk was a study done by 3 academics which calculated if the spending/person on drugs matched the US then spending would rise by £500m/week - there is no where in the world where spending on drugs is as high as the states - so why would it automatically happen here - again fake news

Well, having had "Chicken Johnson" a few weeks ago, it seems that this too is contagious.

Despite priding themselves on being the party best able to control the public purse strings, it seems like Johnsons right hand man, Sajid Javed, is now unwilling to go head to head with John McDonnel to debate each of the main party's spending plans.

Having created a fake headline of "Labours £1.2 trillion spending spree", which has now been proven to be a totally made up figure and with Tories allowing their own spending plan to be "costed" through the same mechanism. Javid has bottled the planned live debate.

To quote Led Zeppelin "lying, cheating, hurting, that's all you seem to do".

I dont like Corbyn but, when it comes to honesty, he's a very long way in front of this shower.

The Tories cant tell you what their spending will cost but, they are happy to completely fabricate figures for their opponents and then try and tell people that these numbers are correct.
Maybe our current chancellor cant add up, which you would have thought was a pre requisite for the job that he's been given.

Horatio Javid?
He needs to be back defending our shores against them trillions of economic migrants fleeing over here to take our jobs, occupy our social housing, exploit our NHS and benefits system, and eating all our carp.

I do worry about his grasp of basic Mathematics.

Having shipped out the long serving moderate Tories, we are now left with a bunch of incompetent compulsive liars, very much in the mould of their leader.
It's up to the rest of us to call them out.
If this wasn't such an important election, which will be pivotal in our kids futures, it would be quite amusing but, this is serious.

It's quite interesting that during this period of purdah, mainstream media types are finally calling out Tory lies - because they are legally obliged to provide balance; on that basis, the tone of many news programmes has changed, and the fundamental dishonesty of the Tory offer is actually being exposed. If they behaved like this *all* the time, to *all* politicians, the tone of our political discourse would change very quickly.

One thing that does puzzle me is, that despite this being a Westminster Election and that the Brexit Party has no MP's, Farage seems to get a hell of a lot of publicity. You could be forgiven for thinking that someone at BBC HQ has some kind of personal agenda ?

why do I need to link, you only link to left wing opinion pieces found by a lazy google search.

Just to jog your memory, where you replied to my post that didn't show any links, you replied:

yay, codswallop with joaundiced links.

The Sin Bin is heading for a Michelin Star (for codswallop)

Your typical, lazy replies, without adding anything to the subject being discussed is a little tiresome.
You seem to have my politics confused a little but, no worries.

You keep sending them and I'll keep knocking them back

knock back all you want, you seem to have way more time free than those gainfully employed.

Think again.
I've been in FT employment since I was 17 years old

Nobody knows as yet what each party will spend - Labour have committed to £450bn before any cost of re-nationalisation. All the Tories have done is take every pledge since 2017 and add them up. It is the same as Labour saying a deal with the US will cost £500m a week in extra cost of medicines.

Corbyn is suggesting McDonald's workers need to be paid £15 hour - so if you scale that up across the whole UK workforce how much will that cost!!

I would be very surprised if the Tories spending is not fully costed in their manifesto - if not its a huge mistake.

My concern is to Corbyn/McDonald/Lansman this is just a huge experiment and bit of a project

Virtually everyone at the BBC voted to remain - suggest the only agenda is to discredit Farage and the leave vote.

As for bias - anyone watch C4 news a more Labour supporting news program you will not view.

They didn't bother last time - they seem to have invested all their time and energy into costing the Labour one. Incorrectly.

Interesting reply, Sal.

I'm not arguing with what the Tories have done and that this STORY was dutifully slapped on the front page of every right leaning journal.
The issue is that, when asked if we could apply the same criteria to calculate Tory spending, they said NO, because it wouldn't be right to put a figure on their own spending before their manifesto was published (which will be just 2 weeks before the election).

If it is wrong to apply THE SAME criteria to their spending plans, it must be equally wrong to use that criteria (and then some) in the first instance.

I was ok with the wild calculation on one side, but they had to then use the same means to "test" their own mounting spending pledges.

The fact that the few Tory politicians that have been questioned about this have wiggled and writhed about like a freshly landed Haddock, I think, tells you how they have been found out (again). Lies, lies and more damn lies.

Much as Labour's "grand plan" will be hugely expensive, it would be prudent to wait and see just how much of their plan is to be considered for this Parliament, dont you think ?

Correct and they haven't yet produced a manifesto

Here is one Tory calling out his own party. Sadly most will look after number 1 and screw the country.

Former justice secretary David Gauke says a Conservative majority at the upcoming election would be a "bad outcome for the country".
Mr Gauke - who confirmed he will run as an independent in 12 December poll - was among the MPs expelled from the Tories by Boris Johnson after he voted against a no-deal Brexit.
He said a majority led by Mr Johnson would mean a "very hard Brexit".

If Boris gains a large majority either with Tories or part of a Brexit-con alliance, we WILL be leaving with no deal at the end of 2020, when we will be told that the nasty EU wouldn't agree the trading agreement in the allotted time.

It's quite strange how Boris tells us how quickly he can get things done but, they wont release the papers on Russian interference during UK elections/referendum.
Apparently, despite being almost finished, this will take 6 weeks to publish, coincidentally, just after we've had the election.
Any cynics out there may believe that there was something to hide.

have you started giving any thought to how you are going to fill the void in your life once we have a majority Conservative government and Mr Hezbullah has gone on the lecture circuit?

McDonnell yesterday, "I want to be Chancellor of the Exchequer, but I want to live at home. I don't want No.11 to sit empty so we'll give it to someone who needs it...I'll still use part of it as an office but I don't want it to sit empty so we'll give (the vacant flat) it to a homeless family."

Oh get fecked McDonnell, shove yer virtue signalling up yer коммунист жопа, товарищ.

Today, question to Corbyn, "how will you vote in your proposed second referendum...I think it's only right the people know how their Prime Minister will vote."
Corbyn, [i(after a bit of meaningless waffle)[/i..."I think it's a stupid question."



And then he tried to convince one lot of Scots he won't offer a second referendum...while later trying to appeal to the other lot by saying he will at some point.

And people trust Corbyn?

Yeah but, Boris would just give the first answer that came into his head and then walk away and forget about it


Clearly, nobody is going to give a flat in No 11 to anyone though.

Maybe he could meet Sajid Javed there fro a chat, as he's gone all camera shy

This is an election where lots of people will have to vote for the least worst option. And for many, including me, that possibly means Corbyn - I'm still pondering whether I'll need to vote Labour for the first time to avoid any chance of the Tories getting back in.

Johnson and the rump of his party's lies, deception, threats, denial of any responsibility for the mess they've made and their extremism mean they are too much of a danger to the country to do anything else. They are a long way from the party I used to vote for.

Completely agree - hopefully all sides will properly cost their spending plans - to not do would be a huge mistake.

Ashworth was once again destroyed by Andrew Neil last night as was the idiot from the SNP. If McDonald's aspiration is for an average 32 hour working week but that excludes the 1m employees in the NHS - two things then become obvious: Why would anyone want to work longer hours for the honour of working in the NHS and secondly some people will be working less hours if the average is to be maintained.

This is why I say Corbyn/McDonald/Lansman are playing a high stakes game - the ramifications of there policies have simply not been thought through. The £15/hr for workers at McDonalds!!

Hospital waiting times at worst-ever level

A vote for the conservatives is a vote against the nhs

Hospital performance in England is at its worst level on record, data shows.
Key targets for cancer, hospital care and A&E have been missed for over three years - with delays for hospital care and in A&E hitting their highest levels since both targets were introduced

Performance is not great - that's down to the likes of Hammond who everyone gave Boris a load of stick for getting rid of. He starved the NHS hopefully the Tories have learned a lesson - time will tell