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| Quote ="100% Wire"newsthump.com/2014/07/08/mps-claimed-expenses-for-childrens-home-visits/
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| I see that Inspector Knacker has been round to search Cliff Richards' house in some historical abuse allegation investigation. Poor Kitty. First the Elm Guest House guest list, now this.
[url=http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/12/18/uk-establishment-closes-ranks-as-organised-paedophile-network-leads-back-to-no-10/One of many interesting articles[/url
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| The Queen's honours list is starting to look like a right rogues gallery.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"The Queen's honours list is starting to look like a right rogues gallery.'"
no surprise as it's decided by politicians!
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I see that Inspector Knacker has been round to search Cliff Richards' house in some historical abuse allegation investigation. Poor Kitty. First the Elm Guest House guest list, now this.
[url=http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/12/18/uk-establishment-closes-ranks-as-organised-paedophile-network-leads-back-to-no-10/One of many interesting articles[/url'"
The offence was supposed to have taken place at Brammal Lane, Sheffield in 1985. The flat that the police raided is in Berkshire and was bought by Richard in 2008.
Is that a genuine search for evidence linked to a crime or a fishing expedition to try and find out what porn he's watched on his computer?
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"The offence was supposed to have taken place at Brammal Lane, Sheffield in 1985. The flat that the police raided is in Berkshire and was bought by Richard in 2008.
Is that a genuine search for evidence linked to a crime or a fishing expedition to try and find out what porn he's watched on his computer?'"
I really wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter
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| South Yorkshire Police admitted this afternoon that they had tipped off the media about the raid on Cliff Richards home, hence the reason why the BBC were able to have a camera crew at the front entrance when the police arrived and also have a helicopter in the air to film cars arriving and cars departing.
Police justifying the tip off because the coverage has resulted in several other people contacting them about the allegations.
Makes you wonder why they don't just hand over criminal investigations to Rupert Murdoch, "Tonight on Sky, what do you know about Bruce Forsyth, The Duke of Edinburgh and a rabbit in Hyde Park in 1964 ?"
And here's me thinking that Monty Pythons "Blackmail" sketch was supposed to be the joke...
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Quote In a statement, South Yorkshire Police (SYP) said it had not alerted the media to the search in advance.
It said: "When a media outlet contacted SYP with information about an investigation, we took the decision to work with them in order to protect the integrity of that investigation.
"Since the search took place, a number of people have contacted the police to provide information and we must acknowledge that the media played a part in that, for which we are grateful."'"
According to that they're claiming that they didn't tip the BBC off over the raid, they're admitting the BBC are their partners in the investigation.
It makes me wonder whether this wasn't started by a complaint from the victim, but the BBC opening their box of archive filth that they've got on celebs.
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Quote In a statement, South Yorkshire Police (SYP) said it had not alerted the media to the search in advance.
It said: "When a media outlet contacted SYP with information about an investigation, we took the decision to work with them in order to protect the integrity of that investigation.
"Since the search took place, a number of people have contacted the police to provide information and we must acknowledge that the media played a part in that, for which we are grateful."'"
According to that they're claiming that they didn't tip the BBC off over the raid, they're admitting the BBC are their partners in the investigation.
It makes me wonder whether this wasn't started by a complaint from the victim, but the BBC opening their box of archive filth that they've got on celebs.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28807388
According to that they're claiming that they didn't tip the BBC off over the raid, they're admitting the BBC are their partners in the investigation.
It makes me wonder whether this wasn't started by a complaint from the victim, but the BBC opening their box of archive filth that they've got on celebs.'"
[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/15/cliff-richard-raid-thames-valley-police-deny-tipping-media-south-yorkshire-force-silent_n_5681768.html?1408116254And then you get this angle on the same statement[/url on the other hand the BBC wouldn't actually admit that they got a tip-off from the police, being a "partner in the investigation" sounds so much better than "we probably leaned on someone a bit to get a tip-off" because of course news media teams aren't supposed to do that sort of thing anymore.
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| you guys are slipping, you haven't blamed Thatcher at any point yet...?
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"The offence was supposed to have taken place at Brammal Lane, Sheffield in 1985. The flat that the police raided is in Berkshire and was bought by Richard in 2008.
Is that a genuine search for evidence linked to a crime or a fishing expedition to try and find out what porn he's watched on his computer?'"
Can you suggest an alternative address for them to search?
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| Quote ="Standee"you guys are slipping, you haven't blamed Thatcher at any point yet...?'"
Apart from her regularly hosting Savile at Chequers?
Giving the nod to various peers, senior civil servants and MPs?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Apart from her regularly hosting Savile at Chequers?
Giving the nod to various peers, senior civil servants and MPs?'"
knew I could rely on you coddy!
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-way-the-police-have-treated-cliff-richard-is-completely-unacceptable-9672367.html?origin=internalSearch'"
That doesn't answer my question either
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That one will be interesting to follow, it will be denied of course and as he isn't part of the case against the Federal Government then he doesn't even need to comment on it but will enough mud stick during the process ?
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That one will be interesting to follow, it will be denied of course and as he isn't part of the case against the Federal Government then he doesn't even need to comment on it but will enough mud stick during the process ?
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| The sub heading about half way down the article says all you need to know - 'Powerful people'.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"The sub heading about half way down the article says all you need to know - 'Powerful people'.'"
History would suggest that "royals" have been "fiddlin about" all the time and it's always been swept away and politely put to one side.
Mind you in this century any Monarchy is anachronism.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"History would suggest that "royals" have been "fiddlin about" all the time and it's always been swept away and politely put to one side.
Mind you in this century any Monarchy is anachronism.'"
Is it any coincidence that Prince Andrew appears to have disappeared off the face of the earth in recent times?
Certainly sweeping this sort of thing under the carpet and keeping him out of the spotlight would have been the advisable thing to do, if somebody had been throwing around any dirt.
He hasn't helped himself though, with both his reputation he has garnered and the company he has kept.
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| If this all goes well and Prince Andrew comes out of it unscathed, there's a lookalike job for him as Neil Tennant from the Pet Shop Boys.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"History would suggest that "royals" have been "fiddlin about" all the time and it's always been swept away and politely put to one side.
Mind you in this century any Monarchy is anachronism.'"
Check up on the boys' favourite Uncle, Lord Louis Mountbatten
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| The Ched Evans circus rumbles on, but now apparently the alleged victim's father has asked the A-G to take down Evan's website which explains why he still maintains his innocence, and there is some suggestion of a possibility of contempt proceedings.
This raises issues much wider than just Evans, but are also relevant to the cause celebre of "remorse" and "acceptance of guilt". If you had been wrongly convicted of a criminal offence - ANY criminal offence - and after you had served your time or done your punishment, would you feel obliged to fake remorse and lie that you had done it? Or would you feel entitled to stick to your principles and maintain your innocence? IF a person - not Evans, but ANYBODY - believes they are innocent, I don't see on what basis in a free society they should be compelled to pretend acceptance of guilt, or silenced from asserting their innocence. It is of course also going to become increasingly topical, as Grayling's continued savaging of legal aid and criminal defence can only lead to a considerable increase in miscarriages of justice.
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