Happily, anything that helps people to live their lives without being subsidised by someone else, I am all for people doing as they please with their own income, what es me off is those that think the world owes them something, we're all worth a % of what we contribute, spending hours a day bemoaning one's plight whilst typing on facebook/RLFans etc just arrogant and ignorant, in equal measure. IMHO.

Maybe another way of making some decent money could be closing every loophole people like Phil Green and Vodaphone use to avoid paying tax.
Every penny earned i this country must be taxed rather than setting up an account for the wife in Monaco.

Apply that to F1 drivers, footballers et al and I'd agree.

The biggest problem in the UK is the people on a free ride, you want something, GO OUT AND EARN IT.

What if we did and worked a full time job plus two part time jobs at the same time then became ill and couldn't earn "it" - no longer? Am I on a "free ride"?? I wouldn't call 96 quid a week a free ride either. You know Mr HWS works and we get absolutely nothing for "free". I used to take home over a grand a month, now I get just under £400 - oooohh I'm really on a free ride, aren't I???

You'd do better shouting at the MP's who are on a free ride with their duck houses and clean moats.

I wish you'd stop listening to the media and stop taring us all with the same brush.

Having no compassion for the less fortunate than yourself is not only arrogant and ignorant but selfish in equal measures imo. Remember you could get run over by a bus tonight on your way home from your ivory towers you sit in every day and never walk again let alone work again. I take it you will still be going out to EARN IT and not take a free ride????

Did you pay for all of your education?

Do you pay for all of your medical expenses?

When you drive your car, did you pay for the roads that you drive on?

When you get on your aeroplane, did you pay for the building of the airport that you take off and land from?

Didn't think so

The problem with people like Standee are they are simply selfish. As Cod'ead said Standee and even the mega-rich are reliant on the co-operative effort of the nation and of our forefathers. Standee et al deliberately (or perhaps via the sheer ignorance caused by having their heads up their own s for so much of their smug lives) ignore that.

maybe I could quote the DallyM and bemoan my luck everyday, and expect everyone else to subsidise my family.

Do yourself a favour.
Read back through this thread and seriously tell me which poster is doing the [umoaning[/u?

I'll give you a clue.......

But the whole point is everyone is already subsidising you / your family.

Nobody subsidises me, or my family

I fund f'whits like you.

So did you pay for all your education, medical expenses, roads and airports then?

Apart from the M6 Toll Road, all of the roads and most bridges, airports, railway stations, docks etc have all been built using anything other than private money. So unless you've paid for the above, you have certainly been subsidised by everyone else.

You must have some form of masochistic tendency: we visit this subject on a regular basis and every time we do it ends with you having your ar[is[/ie handed to you on a plate

in your eyes, to me it ends with the same people making the same old, tired, observations, whilst sitting on the sidelens being clever.

RIP Sin Bin, it's just a grave yard for dinosaurs.

I think you need to answer cod'eads post before you make accusations of others.

If you were born in the UK then your subsidised care started from minute one.

Unless your father owned the hospital of course.

Erm.......... is the Sin Bin dead?

Nah, it's just some selfish pricks way of evacuating before someone tears him a new one. Coward!

Funny you should say that.
Greed, selfishness and denial of need for co-operation are pretty old, tired choices too.

I knew you wouldn't disappoint (again)

Fantastic piece of self observation there Standee, take a bow.

Standee - aren't you involved in some form of property business? Do you have any mortgages?

You won't get an answer, he's gone again, as he has done on numerous other occasions when he's been called out on the subject.

At times he makes Ayn Rand seem like a left-wing radical

probably gone to try to bulk himself up before the next round.

Be interesting to see if he does come back, especially after his "sin-bin RIP" post

From previous occasions, I suspect he'll have checked himself into an institition (private of course) until he feels better, then come back on here. After a while though the pressure builds and the delusions of grandeur get overpoering; and the cycle begins again.