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At least you had the wherewithal to keep your coat fastened. That's another bug-bear of mine - people who wear a double-breasted coat unfastened

Usually 2 buttons undone on the shirt. 3 if it's warm enough to flash a bit of dark chest hair....You'll be relieved to hear always jewellryless though. That's for girls.

Good to see you were full of sunshine and happiness at the couples joyful occasion

As if there's any other way to dress...

He'd just caught Minty tongueing with Wigan_Fan in the mens toilets.

What about the tie though?

Could have had your jacket cleaned (right shoulder's looking bad)!

i wore a light grey suit to the races last month, with a white, pinstripe (feint) shirt and a tie that was a mixture of those colours.

finished the outfit with a brown belt and pair of brown shoes, looked great.

Rain. (it was in Cumbernauld)

Rains in a mild vomit colour there does it!?

I know Minty burnt her bra a long time ago so I'm assuming you ironed that shirt?

Have you considered grey shoes?

Fair point, each to their own.

I'm happy either way when it comes to other people, I'm just not a tie fan myself. Ties do look smart, but they don't serve a purpose, hence why I can't be bothered with them. I'd never suggest ties should never be worn.

I would if it was just the night do. In the day I'd consider wearing a tie depending on who's wedding it was, and if I was an 'important' guest, so to speak. Obviously if I was 'told' to wear a tie as part of a dress code (or if I was taking orders from my OH), then I'd do it. I'd have to buy one first though, because I don't think I own one any more, except a black one for funerals.

Do you go along with jacket lapels and working-cuff buttons, shirt collars, double cuffs and links?
None serve a purpose, as such.

... and what purpose do underpants serve?

To stop you getting skid marks on your trousers

Pretty much my attitude. I haven't worn a tie since I turned 40 (ten years ago) except for weddings and funerals.

I should have added "for clean people?"

Back to the original question about shoes, depending on the shade of grey you could also think of burgundy coloured shoes.

You could, but in these austere times black is best as you can use them with anything.

Well, ... if you've got to ask ...

Just playing Devil's Advocate here ... a tie offers the opportunity to accessorise, the chance to add contrast and colour to an ensemble that may be a little plain without it.
As does a pocket handkerchief ... as do cufflinks.

Despite saying all that (and meaning it, I guess), I rarely wear one myself despite owning many.

I draw the line at pocket handkerchiefs.

Chestnut shoes & charcoal suit, my usual work armour of choice.

As for ties, hate them. Can only assume whoever invented them was into erotic asphyxiation. If I wanted to spend my time feeling so restricted and choked, I'd let the wife plan every minute of my life.

I'll wear a tie on a client visit but never with colleagues (neither do any of my colleagues, regardless of seniority). I'll wear a tie to a wedding/funeral but it comes off soon after the main event.

A good open-necked shirt can look far more fashionable and appealing than any tie.