Absolutely - I follow most of the bigger political hitters in the UK and they are all as bad as each other - nobody worse than Corbyn and McDonald for spreading fake news. Perhaps if the leading figures in both parties raised the quality of debate it would help.

Sadly none of them want because their policies have more hole than a sieve.

Much like at a RL game, you aren't watching both sides.
The absolute litany of lies, mis quotes and irregular behaviour since Boris teamed up with Cummigs and took on the top job is absolutely unprecedented and just disgraceful - I hope that he is making you proud, I'm not
I'm sure that you know this (as it's impossible to argue against) but, just as we expect from the Conservatives, you are more than happy to look the other way.
There was a time when someone behaving so erratically would have been clamed down by the more experienced MP's but, Boris seems to have got rid of any "sensible" MP's and filled his team with idiot's and yes men (and women).
As I said in another post, we now have the political equivalent of the Sunday Sport.

So which are the lies that concern you the most?

The previous cabinet had a chancellor would simply would not spend any money to the detriment of all citizens - you can't have it both ways - either fiscal control and its consequences are OK or there not

He had a number of MPs who simply wanted to disrupt the Brexit process - this needed to be addressed - when you can members of your own party actively engaging with EU against the agreed party line what do you expect Boris to do? In business you would sack them.

Who are the voices of reason that he has got rid of - Ken Clarke who else? How many of the current cabinet were in May's cabinet - quite a few.

Now let's look at Labour - Corbyn has simply surrounded himself with hard left MPs who share Lansman's vision of what the UK should be - he is far more dangerous than Cummins but to take your RL analogy you only see your side playing.

The lies which concern me most are the ones coming from Johnsons mouth.
Has ANYTHING that he has said do far actually been true ??

Brexit done by 30th October DO OR DIE, he's still living


I dont want an election


Brexit will be done bey end of 2020


20,000 new and additional policemen


20 new hospitals


Proroguing parliament


New queens speech



I could keep going, he literally cant help himself and he seemed to have issues with his new NI calculations as well but, the difference between £90 and £500 a year will be utterly irrelevant to him.

He needs to get back to practical jokes and playing the fool, which may be his only attribute.

It wasn't his fault that parliament passed the Benn act that cut the rug from under his feet. Then backed by the speaker parliament were simply not going to back the bill without significant changes i.e. a customs union and a single market so not really his doing.

No reason it cannot be completed by 2020 - especially if he has a significant majority

Policemen - he has started on that he never said it would be done before Christmas

New Hospitals - they are on with it - again he never said it would instant

Proroguing parliament - bad move for me - he knew exactly what he was doing and why - he definitely lied about that

Queens speech became redundant when they blocked Brexit - parliament needed dissolving at that point.

Just because we are having an election doesn't mean he actually wanted one - big risk, Corbyn is a very experienced campaigner. Labour wanted an election but turned down the opportunity many times so are they liars too?

So, you actually agree on half of the stuff and the remainder hasn't been done and is not likely to.
Fancy a charity wager on the number of hospitals or policemen, although we'd have to put a time limit on as I'm the wrong side of 50

You are not the only one



No problem with a charity bet £50 is fine and it does depend on who wins the election.

If the Tories win - 10,000 extra police by 2020

New hospitals - it takes >5 years to build one - so how many new hospitals are in construction by the end of this parliament. I say 5

If Labour win
Not a chance they will have built 100,000 new homes before 2020 - even 2021.

I guarantee they will not have nationalised anything by end of 2020.

I said that I was the wrong side of 50, not about to croak !

Think positively as you fall off the mortal coil they will be have the 20,000th policeman putting the final touches to the 5th new hospital and they will have Donald Trump cutting the ribbon.

The thought of Trump coming accross here would almost be good enough reason to not want to be here.
You do know that to hit the 20,000 new policemen/women, according to the police themselves would require 500,000 applicants and remember these are in addition to those leaving the force.
You know that gullible is the 3004th word in the English dictionary dont you ?

old, tired, living in the past, full of hate



are you in the latest Star Wars movie?

School finished for today ?

What do you know about movies, oh enlightened one?

ah, more deflection,roll on Dec 13th

He knows that he can watch what he want's when his mum goes out

Labour, boring itself into oblivion. It' OK though, Cringebin is taking his £130K salary whilt you burn pianos in Keighley.

Im waiting for you or PrincePuss to post a still from Kes.

Can you ask your mum to translate this into English.
No rush, it can wait until she's made your dippy egg and soldiers

pathetic, but not unexpected.

I could use any manner of emoticons, but I can actually use words. You might want to try them, you may even come across as eloquent, instead of bereft of salient thought.

I see that you managed to get some help with your post, well done

I do not need help, in a hustings I would destroy you. But keep up the internet keyboard war, it makes me laugh (if somewhat overshadowed by a bit of pity for you)

So far, on any political thread, the best you have managed is some kind of weird take on Corbyn's surname so, well done, again.
It would be great if you actually did manage to contribute something, anything to the topic.

At this moment in the election build up, both the Tories and Labour are flooding us with promises of cash injections/freebies/nationalisation of businesses/tax breaks/more housing etc.

Stuff the current government should be doing already instead of offering it as an incentive for your vote.

The opposition are relying on big businesses to pay for their promises.

You're right and if there was so much brass in the "golden spending pot", a sensible government, may have taken their foot off the Austerity brakes a little sooner.
People really need to realise that The Tories are the party that have literally squeezed the life out of some of those right at the bottom of the economic pile but, they just want everyone to forget some of their racist (Windrush) unfair (Universal credit) and crime fuelled (too long a list to mention) policies that we've had imposed on us by the self proclaimed "nasty party" and their response now is to promise to spend, spend, spend but, even if they are to be believed (and their credibility is less than zero), do they really deserve another term.
Never mind Brexit, that will create a further economic tightening, let's have a change of ruling party and give us all a break.

The Benn act was specifically passed to stop him pushing through with an illegal act.

He has no Majority now and the #1 tactic the tories seem to be using now to try and change that is blatant lies.....


Feel free to correct me, but didn't the tories/Lib Dems form a government in 2010? If so, this makes great reading
[urlhttps://fullfact.org/crime/police-numbers/[/url

To be clear, replacing coppers with ones your party removed inside a decade is hardly to be applauded.


His last promise about the NHS was something about £350,000,000.......given that was a lie, I'd never believe anything he ever had to say on the NHS ever again.

Yep, but it was his "ruse' to get all his patriotic mail readers to back him by using 'er majesty the queen.....the Queens Speech is redundant BTW.....as redundant his attempting to come across all 'OLIVER CROMWELL' and strong arm parliament


His only course of action was to repeatedly call for an election so he could push through brexit in the interim.....clumsy is an understatement


Labour wanted an election once a hard/sneaky/backdoor brexit was taken off the table. Boris tried to negotiate otherwise and lost....badly and very publicly.

Hey...I's fun fun fun watching how your round-a-bout of politics is viewed by countries around the world......even the Yanks, who have their own idiot to deal with are in awe of the stupidity of what is going on in Blighty

BTW.....still awaiting for any of the right wing faithful to explain why the PM won't release the Russian Interference Findings until AFTER the election?

More Labour LIES.


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Paul Johnson, the director of the (independent) Institute for Fiscal Studies, says Labour’s claim 95% of taxpayers would not need to pay more under its spending plans is simply not credible. Some strong words in his statement.