Yep. Just give the EDL's Twitter feed a look. Apparently putting "boots on the ground" tonight.

Just what we need.

What constitutes a terrorist attack then in your book? So far as I'm concerned, it is committing an act with the intent to terrorise. I'm quite sure the people witnessing this event were sufficiently terrified and in fear of being terrorised, don't you think?


Chances are then it was an act of Islamist terrorism. Islamists do tend to praise their god while committing acts of terrorism.

dunno tbh, but its still more than these mindless scumbags deserve. anyway, corrie has started, and i know threads like this always turn into the international court of human rights, with all the expert psychologists and what not appearing, so i will say no more.

If you mean the right to a fair and legal trial, then yes.

what will that prove? will just waste time.

hacking a man to death is pretty conclusive evidence as it is...

Well thats ok then, enjoy your episode of Corrie.

Out of interest, when would you involve the judiciary and when not?

So terrorised they stood there and filmed them.

Of course people watching will be terrified. But they'd have been just as terrified as seeing an old person have a heart attack at the wheel and run someone over.

If this was a terrorist attack, then as I said it was a pathetically lame attack. If they want to take out soldiers THEY WERE NEXT TO A BARRACKS. If they'd gone in to the barracks and killed a few soldiers before being shot then that would be something the country could be worried by. Even worse, if they'd gone a few hundred feet further and gone into the school and started attacking children then that would have been a terrorist attack sending fear to every parent and virtually every person in the country.

But a terrorist attack to kill a soldier walking along a street? It's far more terrifying if they were care in the community loons or smack heads than an organised terrorist event.

The air ambulance - was that used for one of the "terrorists"?

I doubt it. I doubt someone having a heart attack or being run over is in the same league as two machete wielding lunatics somehow! The person having a heart attack or being run over would create shock in anyone remotely human but not terror.


Somebody died in an horrific fashion in broad daylight, next to a barracks in our capital city and you say that is lame?!


You clearly have forgotten that Islamists do not care if they die. In fact, they think they are going to 72 virgins in heaven if they commit these acts in the name of Allah. I would suggest that those who have no care for whether they live are very dangerous indeed. Do you know that they only intended one victim to die? We saw only a couple of years ago what one man and a gun could do in Cumbria. Two men with machetes and guns could do a whole lot worse.

Yes. The other was taken to hospital by road ambulance. Both were shot by the police.

Incidentally, COBRA has met so the government are treating this as a potential terrorist attack and security around barracks in London is to be increased. The Muslim Council of Britain have made a statement to say that the attack has no place in Islam.

Here is a statement from one of the terrorists:

[i"We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

"I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your government, they don't care about you."[/i

According to witnesses, the terrorists ran the man down in a car first.

Define "Islamists" - does that mean anyone who follows Islam or do you really mean Islamic Extremist Terrorists and do you understand that there is a difference ?

A big difference actually.

Let me get this straight.

These 'terrorists' were right next to an army barracks, in a car, and the best they can come up with is a sharp blade?

Pretty carp terrorists if you ask me. I'd have thought filling the car with unleaded and driving it at the gates would have made a bigger impact.

There's been a suggestion made by a mate in the area that it's more likely to be drugs related BTW.

Other than that, it is a truly disgusting crime, but until a few more facts emerge, I'm happy to sit here laughng at the 'I'm not racist but...' brigade.

I think you need to take your patronising tone and stick it up your backside, actually. But aside from that I used Islamist precisely because I was differentiating.

They ran the man down in their car then slashed him to death with cleavers while also brandishing a gun (according to eye witnesses, of which there were many), one of them shouting out a political message, apparently also praising Allah, and this attack took place near to the Woolwich barracks and was upon a young man wearing a Help the Heroes t-shirt.

Clearly they were not rubbish. COBRA has met, security around barracks is being tightened, lots of witnesses were terrified and it's all in the news. Job done so far as I can see. The only difference between this and a bomb is in the numbers dead.

here is the video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws_HF9qSrYI I have to say the whole thing seems very odd to me. The woman sitting near to the body, the casualness of the attackers, them hanging around for twenty minutes for the police to arrive. hard to get yoyr head around this one,

here is the video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws_HF9qSrYI I have to say the whole thing seems very odd to me. The woman sitting near to the body, the casualness of the attackers, them hanging around for twenty minutes for the police to arrive. hard to get yoyr head around this one,

So just to be clear, it is Islamist TERRORISTS then ?

The term 'Islamist' was coined to describe the terrorist element who use Islam as their reason for their murdering ways. The religion of Islam is followed by Muslims (or Moslims, depending upon your linguistic inclination).

[iIslamist [ˈɪzləmɪst
adj
(Non-Christian Religions / Islam) supporting or advocating Islamic fundamentalism[/i

...which is why the word TERRORIST is so important, you can label yourself "Islamist" without wanting to commit acts of terrorism, semantics are so important in context and for the sake of public order.

Someone needs to deal with these issues. The establishment won't. The liberati won't.

I wonder what land he was referring to, as his accent was pure London?

Quote ="Durham Giant"here is the video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws_HF9qSrYI I have to say the whole thing seems very odd to me. The woman sitting near to the body, the casualness of the attackers, them hanging around for twenty minutes for the police to arrive. hard to get yoyr head around this one,'" They'd have been off their heads on drugs, I'd guess. Was it terrorism or is that just a spin to prevent panic?

Quote ="Durham Giant"here is the video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws_HF9qSrYI I have to say the whole thing seems very odd to me. The woman sitting near to the body, the casualness of the attackers, them hanging around for twenty minutes for the police to arrive. hard to get yoyr head around this one,'" They'd have been off their heads on drugs, I'd guess. Was it terrorism or is that just a spin to prevent panic?

As i said years ago - the war on "terror" is a real war. It is a war that needs to be waged Islamic expansion. Failure to deal with this will cause the demise of our way of life. It will only be dealt with by a full scale war that geographically pushes back the Islamic sphere of influence. The big problem is that Europe and the US have allowed too much immigration and so there is an element of the "enemy within." We'll have generations of strike methinks.

I'm amazed at how surprised and shocked people are on here. This has been predicted since the 70's. get used to it, its going to get worse.

I wonder if the poster would be quite so patronising if a couple of our own home reared Leeds islamists drove the short distance from Beeston to Horsforth, and attacked his local pub whilst he enjoyed a sunday lunch with his family.