Perhaps, but I can't see why a 1.4 207 would be so desirable (no offence!) as to go to the trouble and costs of importing.

A 1.2 Clio is probably rare in the States but I can't imagine many are imported.

It could be legit but I'd still stay well clear if I were you.

Peugeot did pull out of the States some years back and so that will obviously have cut off the supply of used motors. Maybe not a scam, then? I'd still want the money in the bank first

I have told the buyer that i would want the funds in my account via paypal before i release the car. The DVLA stated that if I write to them saying who i sent it to and when, then they will send a letter saying that the vehicle is no longer my responsibility as of the sell date.

Surely, if it is a scam, this should not be my problem after this?

Me too.

Just a guess, but does he want to pay by Western Union?

One PayPal scam works like this:
1. Payment is confirmed as made
2. You sell the goods.
3. Buyer tells Paypal it was an unauthorised payment.
4. PayPal reverse the transaction, you have no money, no goods, and a hard road looming ahead.

How could i prevent this scam from occurring (apart from not selling the car)??

Withdraw the paypal funds, keep records of all emails and documents etc.

Hello.... This is a scam, no doubt about it.

Shipping wise he's gonna be looking at around £1200. Plus the cost of transporting it half way across the country.

It's got to be a scam. Had it been a rarer/ vintage car I could of understood him going through all the hassle and cost's involved. But in this case it's screams danger signs.

Unless you are getting a very favourable price, I'd forget it.

There are too many potential risks and you've got all the extra work. You may lose the car and not get paid, you may have a psycho getting hold of your bank a/c details and address, do you know the law in the US on this sort of thing? For all you know if the car gets used in a crime / terrorist event you may have some liability and may get an expenses paid trip to Cuba. Wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole myself.

have a look at this forum. there is even a sub section on used car scams.
[urlhttp://www.scam.com/index.php[/url

seriously why would somebody want to buy a car such as yours and incur the legal and shipping costs attached? I would have thought the figures involved in doing this would be pretty high as a percentage of the car price.

another.....
[urlhttp://www.autoshippers.co.uk/car_shipping_scam.htm[/url

The better the price the better chance it is being a scam.

A 1.4L hatchback is definitely a rare car in America though. You could pull a crowd of mulleted denim jacket wearing tyre kickers at any small town car show with one of those. You'd get the full gamut of amazed responses from "I wouldn't want to collide head on with a pick-up in one of those" to "I wouldn't want to collide head on with a truck in one of those".

So then, to sum up:

Is the prospective buyer a Nigerian prince? If so, you may get scammed twice for the price of one.

Looking at the Western Union stories though, mine seems slightly different. It isnt being paid by cheque, it will be paypal. Also, i will not be paying the shipping, the buyer will. I could also withdraw all the funds from my bank account prior to even releasing the vehicle.

Saying all that though, i have been scared off selling this car to this particular buyer!!

Not so. You withdraw funds against an item believed to be cleared. It doesn't clear. You just owe the money to your bank.



The Sin Bin Panel congratulates you on your wisdom

What's the problem with that?

If I was to seel a car overseas, I'd insist they paid by Western Union

I assume its because one of the major scams at the moment involves using Western Union

How can a seller be scammed on Western Union? Unless he ships before he's got the dosh in his grubby little mitts

Quote ="cod'ead" Quote ="Wilde 3" I assume its because one of the major scams at the moment involves using Western Union'" How can a seller be scammed on Western Union? Unless he ships before he's got the dosh in his grubby little mitts'" www.autoshippers.co.uk/car_shipping_scam.htm

Quote ="cod'ead" Quote ="Wilde 3" I assume its because one of the major scams at the moment involves using Western Union'" How can a seller be scammed on Western Union? Unless he ships before he's got the dosh in his grubby little mitts'" www.autoshippers.co.uk/car_shipping_scam.htm

Quote ="Wilde 3" Quote ="cod'ead" Quote ="Wilde 3" I assume its because one of the major scams at the moment involves using Western Union'" How can a seller be scammed on Western Union? Unless he ships before he's got the dosh in his grubby little mitts'" www.autoshippers.co.uk/car_shipping_scam.htm'" That is not being scammed by Western Union, that is called being an out and out idiot. If the seller is paid via Weatern Union he can't be scammed, he's got the dosh and can also keep the car if he wants to

Quote ="Wilde 3" Quote ="cod'ead" Quote ="Wilde 3" I assume its because one of the major scams at the moment involves using Western Union'" How can a seller be scammed on Western Union? Unless he ships before he's got the dosh in his grubby little mitts'" www.autoshippers.co.uk/car_shipping_scam.htm'" That is not being scammed by Western Union, that is called being an out and out idiot. If the seller is paid via Weatern Union he can't be scammed, he's got the dosh and can also keep the car if he wants to

Quote ="cod'ead" Quote ="Wilde 3" Quote ="cod'ead" Quote ="Wilde 3" I assume its because one of the major scams at the moment involves using Western Union'" How can a seller be scammed on Western Union? Unless he ships before he's got the dosh in his grubby little mitts'" www.autoshippers.co.uk/car_shipping_scam.htm'" That is not being scammed by Western Union, that is called being an out and out idiot. If the seller is paid via Weatern Union he can't be scammed, he's got the dosh and can also keep the car if he wants to'" Well i also thought the same, but I will be getting the money via paypal. Somebody said earlier in this thread that once i have received money from the buyer, they can then cancel this if they tell Paypal it was an unauthorised transaction - therefore i lose the money and the car!

Quote ="cod'ead" Quote ="Wilde 3" Quote ="cod'ead" Quote ="Wilde 3" I assume its because one of the major scams at the moment involves using Western Union'" How can a seller be scammed on Western Union? Unless he ships before he's got the dosh in his grubby little mitts'" www.autoshippers.co.uk/car_shipping_scam.htm'" That is not being scammed by Western Union, that is called being an out and out idiot. If the seller is paid via Weatern Union he can't be scammed, he's got the dosh and can also keep the car if he wants to'" Well i also thought the same, but I will be getting the money via paypal. Somebody said earlier in this thread that once i have received money from the buyer, they can then cancel this if they tell Paypal it was an unauthorised transaction - therefore i lose the money and the car!

That is the scam.

I would never use paypal for such a transaction and I use it every day.

Western Union or nothing in this case, with the possible exception of an on-line escrow service

Could you get him to send you cash using a reputable courrier (making sure you include exchange rates)?