The Democrats have to come up with a credible candidate yet. The issue they have is Trump is very popular and he will be difficult to dislodge.

Like political parties spending tens of thousands on social media campaigns and adverts? Why do you think they'd want to do that?

Nothing to see, apart from the party of the current Government, resorting to schoolyard tactics for some more cheap publicity.
The same party who pretends that they want to crack down on scammers and on line abuse etc

It's not going to be a life changer but, is this really what we want from those trying to shape our country's future - I dont think so.

Lets all have a chuckle at those pesky Tories

How many followers Conservatives have 450k, Conservative home 92k - both are a fraction of the total voting pool - how many people watched the debate last night - many millions, that's where the action is.

The subliminal adverts and news feeds are being sent to targeted "voters" accross the country, members and follower's getting propaganda would be a waste of money (for any party).

Says The Mirror, Express, Huffington Post...

The inexplicable willingness of some people to defend absolutely anything that Johnson does, is a mirror of the Trump situation; it's beyond bizarre.

I can tell you with certainty that if Labour pulled a stunt like that, despite being a wholehearted supporter of the party, I would call it out as unacceptable and agree with those opponents who labelled it as such.

The level of discourse we've arrived at is shockingly awful - and it seems that we have yet to plumb the depths of the fevered imagination of Mr Cummings and his team of Vote Leave crooks.

Stop the bus - I want to get off.

You did notice that I put for both of the main parties

If Trump and Boris were just a little more extreme than they currently are, we could end up with something really quite sinister and their followers wouldn't notice until the hit squad arrived. Talk about sleep walking into trouble

I must have missed that unusual level of clarity.

You're incredibly naive to think they're only targeting their own following, and that it's only their own following who are seeing the ads. I don't follow any political parties, I don't even have a twitter account, but if I do have a look at anything on twitter, and scroll through the timeline, I'm exposed to ads from all parties.

Garbage, even from you, I doubt you can even use Twitter, you hate success, admit it. You epitomise envy, you, wrencat, bren2k, achieved nothing in life, but it is all someone else to blame.

You're so right - I'm typing this from the local library before my hour runs out, then it's off to a shop doorway for me for another cold night.

And i'm looking over his shoulder as I cant afford broadband or any form of tech to plug into it.
Hang on, I think it may be time for your mum to pick you up, the school bell is ringing .

Go on, toddle off and dont talk to any strangers and remember your reflective arm bands, it's dark outside

Actually it's not. Twitter has said if they do it again they'll be suspended, so they were wrong and have been told as much. As for "social media" being taken too seriously.......are you for real?

Based on what metric?!

Am I allowed to ask how old you are?

I can tell you with certainty that if Labour did the same I wouldn't give a shiny sht. It's a short-term little stunt that will have "misled" absolutely no-one. The only people likely to have seen it are @CCHQPress followers and a few retweets - otherwise they won't have seen it in the first place. In the vast idiocracy of Twitter it really has no impact.

I do wonder about the lives some people lead when they whinge and moan and everything's a massive outrage. This doesn't matter. Most stuff doesn't matter. Perspective is everything. Get a grip.

Still, the whining from the snowflake left today - again - has been hilarious.



In fact the level of toxic whingeyness from the left on here is also reaching new levels. I'm enjoying every moment. One might almost think they're worried.

Very strange, just very strange


This is a forum for discussing the goings on of the day and of course the low grade tactics of the ruling party are worthy of comment.
You seen unable to decipher the difference between outrage and shame.
A ruling political party shouldn't be getting involved with schoolyard games as there are real issues to deal with.
We've already had the shenanigans in Parliament from Boris & Co, shutting it down twice + a faux Queens speech, which we were told was absolutely necessary, despite Boris deliberately sacrificing 21 of his own MP's.
There is no moral high ground from the Tory Party here, just petty, unnecessary, petty games and I'm glad that you're enjoying them



I suppose that the days of people in authority setting some kind of example are long gone but, we are now in an era of "Sunday Sport" politics, lead by the establishment clown.

The Tories will be the largest party post election but, let's hope that their majority isn't close to a level that allows a "no deal" Brexit.

Despite Boris and his oven ready deal, the expectation is that, there "wont be quite enough time" to complete the next phase and those "nasty Europeans" will force us to go for the proverbial cliff edge so, enjoy it while you can - even your own mask appears to have slipped and I thought that you were better than that.

Oh please.

'Shame' isn't what I've seen and heard spewing forth from the left today - it's fake outrage. Nothing more, nothing less. It's pathetic. "They shouldn't be doing this..." jog on, and when you've finished jogging, grow a pair. Interesting how the left are so aggressive and toxic to anyone disagreeing with them...yet when the Tory press office pulls an ill-advised but ultimately insignificant stunt it's apocalyptic.

Just like that awful mouth Jess Phillips, who has hurled abuse and vitriol to all who disagree with her for years - yet the moment toxic language becomes a sensitive issue in the press she's suddenly all meek and tries to take the moral high ground...until she's called out in front of millions in Parliament for being one of the worst offenders on the benches.

It's all a points-scoring exercise, except the left are placing far too much value on a temporary twitter handle change.

What happened in Parliament in the last few months isn't surprising at all. Something had to give. When so many perfidious MPs are doing their best to frustrate the result of the referendum, the usual rules don't apply. 400 years ago they'd have been burned at the stake.



What I do genuinely find funny is the growing levels of aggression and frustration on the left. It's palpable on here and elsewhere. The devoted simply cannot cope with the fact most people will not vote for Corbyn, or that Swinson is a failure. Maybe if Jezza actually answered questions, condemned anti-UK/West terrorist groups, stopped promising unicorns and straightened his fookin glasses, he might get somewhere.

The oven ready deal to put in the microwave.
The problem with Johnson is that the part of his anatomy that dictates his life is not found between his ears.
For such a great debater with a common touch he does appear to avoid the electorate and when he does they ask him to leave their town.

He's a bumbling f00king eejit.
Listened to him at that north-east factory visit yesterday and he could hardly string a coherent sentence together.

Oh the irony....the utter delicious Irony of accusing Corbyn as a swerve merchant but ignoring boris's multiple instances of dodging questions. The most pertinent question that Boris is refusing to answer is why the delay....sorry, the unprecedented delay in releasing the findings of the investigation into Russian Interference in British Politics. Oh, I have no doubt that Dominic Cummings is a upstanding guy....but he has form
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Oh...and before you start with another rant about liberal snowflakes or corbyn being an IRA bomb maker, I don't care what happens to the UK other than to worry about my Granddaughter's future, which a combination of Right wing lunatics, wealthy foreign backers, wealthy foreign media moguls and a whole heap of lies have pretty much consigned to the gutter for the foreseeable future. You and I will be long dead before any benefit is felt, but for every FTA you sign with overseas countries like India and China, expect an influx of brown faces......that'll give you nightmares 'til your meagre pension runs out, the US healthcare system that's replaced the NHS kicks in and you die on a gurney in some backwater corridor of an underfunded hospital.....

You really do have to laugh when Leavers keep banging on about "frustrating the result of the referendum", it's just hilarious.
We had a referendum with a binary in / out vote but, the myriad of promises made bey the numerous different factions voting "leave" makes a satisfactory solution totally impossible and you know it so, the faux outrage and froth certainly seems to be more severe when you hear Farage and some of the Tory right wing clique talking, way more than those on the left.

Just to remind you that we had the "no deal" brigade, the "soft Brexit" and the Labour "Brexit with a customs union" - viewed by many as not being Brexit at all and then we had 48.4% for remain.

3 years on from the vote, with some of the hyperbole and exaggeration removed, we know that any "leave" agreement will leave us all worse off not "project fear" but nailed on fact (it's just the level of contraction to the ecconomy that is up for debate).

Corbyn wont show his personal views, primarily because IF and it's a very unlikely if, Labour were to win, he recognises that depending on the result of the "confirmatory referendum", he would still have to lead his party and the country and whilst this weakens his current position, it could be a sensible move long term.

As for the original point that I made, regarding the schoolyard capers from the Tories, it's just pathetic and for ANY ruling party to run with those tactics just demonstrates what type of government Boris wants to run , back in the common room of Eton, putting dog food on the dining table and replacing lemonade with , oh, but it's all so much fun.

Dont know about "growing a pair" but they certainly need to grow up and take the task of moving the country forward somewhat more seriously.

What is a laugh is Labour saying they would stand by the result of a referendum but simply want to ignore the result of the last referendum.

Corbyn is supposed to be a leader - so surely he has to dictate the direction of travel - that's what leaders do they lead? It makes him look very weak indeed.

The Tories are simply livening up what has become a pretty dull election campaign - yes maybe some might see it as flippant but even the cabinet aren't taking it seriously. What matters is not what happens on Twitter it's what happens on TV, radio and in the press.

What needs further examination is the claims of these guys. Dawn Buttler yesterday - 3,000 on the streets in Brent alone, there are only 5,000 in the whole country. Angela Rayner we will build 100,000 council house every year for 5 years. That 2,000 a week - they will be lucky to build 100,000 in the life of Parliament. Boris - NI cuts will give £500 when in fact it will give £85. Libdems not leaving the EU will give a £50bn bounce to the economy. Its about time this all calmed down and some rationality, responsibility and achievability were shown by these guys.