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| I saw a bit of it at the weekend. The programme is really scraping the barrel now They are absolutely awful, talentless dopes this year (with the possible exception of Johnny, who I understand went out). The show is ridiculous and way past its sell by date. The fomula is tired and predictible.
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| Quote ="Dally"I saw a bit of it at the weekend.'"
Translation - I am an avid fan of the show
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| I don't know why people were hating on Frankie so much. He was just a young lad having a laugh and enjoying the free publicity he was getting in the papers. People say he was 'forcing' his behaviour but he didn't do anything bad, all he was doing was what loads of older teenage lads do, go out, get wasted, try it on with girls, come back with tales (true or not) of having banged girls.
People got oh-so-offended that his singing was crap BIG DEAL it's the X factor, he's hardly the first crap singer on there, its not like he was in opera or something.
I quite warmed to him, I thought he looked like a good laugh.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I don't know why people were hating on Frankie so much. He was just a young lad having a laugh and enjoying the free publicity he was getting in the papers. People say he was 'forcing' his behaviour but he didn't do anything bad, all he was doing was what loads of older teenage lads do, go out, get wasted, try it on with girls, come back with tales (true or not) of having banged girls.
People got oh-so-offended that his singing was crap BIG DEAL it's the X factor, he's hardly the first crap singer on there, its not like he was in opera or something.
I quite warmed to him, I thought he looked like a good laugh.'"
Absolutely spot on!
Personally I think booting him off the show is discrimination against someone who lives a lifestyle that is only frowned upon by hypocritical parents (if they didn’t have kids they’d like him) and Mary Whitehouse-esque old people who are bitter about the world. Now we're stuck with bores like Janet Devlin because of them lot!
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Absolutely spot on!
Personally I think booting him off the show is discrimination against someone who lives a lifestyle that is only frowned upon by hypocritical parents (if they didn’t have kids they’d like him) and Mary Whitehouse-esque old people who are bitter about the world. Now we're stuck with bores like Janet Devlin because of them lot!'"
Damo you've got to be the Frankie of next year's show.
Imagine being in Gary's category...."Lock up your daughters, its Damo" , cue a dramatic shot of Damo suited and booted looking up to the camera with stern face, then a few clips of what you've got up to this week, drinking beer, shagging Leeds slags, a few comments looking for the sympathy vote "I were on't dole before X factor, it's best thing ave ever done in me life is this, ah just don't wannit t'end thor", then give us a stunning rendition of "The Circle of Dole....look where it's got me!" song, and Gary to say "that was ab-so-lute-ly fan-tas-tic mate well done"
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Damo you've got to be the Frankie of next year's show.
Imagine being in Gary's category...."Lock up your daughters, its Damo" , cue a dramatic shot of Damo suited and booted looking up to the camera with stern face, then a few clips of what you've got up to this week, drinking beer, shagging Leeds slags, a few comments looking for the sympathy vote "I were on't dole before X factor, it's best thing ave ever done in me life is this, ah just don't wannit t'end thor", then give us a stunning rendition of "The Circle of Dole....look where it's got me!" song, and Gary to say "that was ab-so-lute-ly fan-tas-tic mate well done"'"
...followed by Louis asking where was the Damo from the auditions and when was he going to bring the brick-to-the-head back ?
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| Shamelessly lifted from facebook:
I can't help but feel Frankie Cocozza's done it all the wrong way round...
This might help, son
1. Possess the ability to sing and therefore obtain a record deal
2. Promotion, Promotion, Promotion
3. Turn-up at high-calibre celebrity events and smile for the cameras
4. Become increasingly addicted to Bottled Beers & Jack Daniels Chasers
5. Carry out a 360-date World Tour
6. Employ the services of a 'runner' to locate & source drugs in order to stop you feeling so tired & drained
6. Your day doesn't begin without several lines of coke and a bottle of Jägermeister
7. After years of upholding your clean-cut image - the media manage to get hold of information about your sordid drug abuse and alcoholism
You didn't even get to the final stages of a family-based karaoke competition, lad.
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| Announced that one of the acts booted by the judges in the first week will be invited back to fill the spot vacated by Frankie. Thought one of them (Amelia) was actually quite good. Can't really remember the others.
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| Jonjo, surely?
Alright, he was crap in the first live show, but before that he was far better than the other choices, and it was a poor song choice.
The choices are:
Amelia Lily (who's probably pregnant with Frankie's love-child)
2 Shoes (one of whom is up the duff and suspected to be the reason why they had the week 1 twist in the first place)
Jonjo Kerr
James Michael.
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| Ah, Jonjo, the squaddie who can't remember the words of his songs, yeah he was sort of OK
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| why are the people not good enough for the final 12, now good enough for the final 7? surely Jonnie or the Risk would be better replacements.....?
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| Well, if we're going down that route, the only fair way would be to allow Johnny back in. The Risk were less popular, in theory Johnny could have been 3rd least popular.
The way I see it is that the public were never allowed to decide on these acts, and someone spotted the chance to have another phone vote and earn some more money...
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| Frankie Cock Hoser goes out at the very time that his furtherance was becoming a real embarrassment ... how convenient.
The longer this show progressed, the more I wanted this low-life to be kept in by the PUBIC (sic).
The more I wanted this talentless man to win it.
However, regarding reinstatement the last one out should be the first one back in ethically. In the long run it's immaterial really, since they are tainted with failure.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"The way I see it is that the public were never allowed to decide on these acts, '"
I think that's the real reason. After the premium rate phone scams that affected various TV shows a few years back, this seems like option that's least likely to rattle Ofcom's cage.
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| I suppose you could argue that, while the judges had to pick someone to be knocked out, the public may have chosen differently. So for example I'm pretty sure Jonjo will have a solid public vote if he gets in, just for being a squaddie. Still a bit weird, though, being mentored by someone who publicly announced that they considered you to be their worst act.
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| So Amelia returned, and has apparently become a firm favourite with the bookies. Why? I don't know. Her performance left me unimpressed. Although any act performing Queen songs would have had a hard time trying to impress me in any way, although admittedly Marcus pulled it off.
You have to either power through like Freddie would have, or do something different. Kitty just sang, Amelia just sang. Maybe if she'd gone up a gear at the chorus like Craig did with Paparazzi, she'd have "put it down" as Kelly Rowland would say. That's Kelly who has officially become the most annoying judge EVER on X Factor, and that's saying something after Alexandra Burke's appearance.
Anyway, Kitty's gone, but the fact that she'd got the audience chanting her name suggests to me we haven't heard the last of her. Love her or hate her (I hated her), there was no denying she had a good voice. Whilst I didn't rate her performance on Saturday, she was ten times better than Misha in the sing-off.
Janet is disgustingly bad, almost as bad as Frankie was. Once she and Little Mix have gone we might have a serious competition.
Still think it's going to come down to Craig or Marcus. Craig was my early favourite, but Marcus has got better week on week.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Janet is disgustingly bad'"
I'm sure I read somewhere that it's rumoured she's topped the public vote every week so far.
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| Amelia and Misha are the only two people on the show who are properly marketable to fit into the mainstream right now.
Solo guys have, historically, always struggled to make an impact (see Leon and Joe) and I don't see anything in Craig and Marcus to buck this trend. Janet will probably just go the same way that Diana Vickers went ie into obscurity.
I actually thought Amelia sang really well on Saturday, probably one of the best performances of the series. She never should have been kicked off in the first place and I hope she goes on to win the whole thing.
This entire series has been nothing short of a disaster though in my opinion. If Amelia did end up going on to win, it would make the whole process a bit of a joke really, considering how she's missed a good 5 weeks' worth of live shows!
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| Quote ="Adamjk"I'm sure I read somewhere that it's rumoured she's topped the public vote every week so far.'"
Probably due to the whole of Ireland voting for her, as happened with Jedwood
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| Talent isn't anything to do with it this year it seems.
Misha B is guaranteed a final spot and has been for weeks. They decided early on that she's marketable and have protected her throughout. They must be gutted that everyone hates her and she's always in the bottom 2.
Kitty, for all her weirdness, is a decent singer, with more vocal ability than most pop stars that are around now.
Craig is okay, nothing more, Marcus is really, really boring.
Janet has fallen to pieces over the last few weeks but could perhaps have a decent album if she stuck firmly to ballads.
Little Mix or whatever they are called are appalling as well. Another act they've decided can fill a spot in the market and earn Simon some cash. But how can you have a girl band when they can't sing collectively and are all minging? It doesn't work. Terrible performances every week from them, although to be fair they've got the worst possible mentor.
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| Amelia was the best of the bunch and could win it, but I agree it is ridiculous that she's missed five weeks of eliminators. As was making up the numbers of a made up band of failure single acts when one left.
Misha B is this years big black soul diva, and rich voice she has, but beyond that she has produced nothing special. I was surprised that in their introductory "duet" Amelia was not outsung by her.
The rest of them are mediocre at best, and the show in its present format may be killing itself off. I feel sorriest for Janet, who does actually have an interesting and different voice, but it is a voice which isn't meant to rock the building or do Metallica covers. But if they stick with the concept that what they want is someone who can scrape together enough votes in singing [iany[/i style of 30-40 year old karaoke songs to not get knocked out then someone as patently limited and pointless as Craig could even win, and then they may as well call it a draw.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"I'm sure I read somewhere that it's rumoured she's topped the public vote every week so far.'"
Bejesus. Have people not got ears?
Quote ="ColD"Probably due to the whole of Ireland voting for her, as happened with Jedwood'"
Actually, The Irish couldn't vote in Jedward's series due to phone competition regulations. Irish voting returned from last year. So I guess the rest of the Great British Public should take the blame for keeping them in...
Quote ="Nothus"Solo guys have, historically, always struggled to make an impact (see Leon and Joe)'"
>cough< Rhydian, Olly, Matt Cardle?
To be honest, despite never having won, the groups have probably enjoyed the most success. G4 went massive until they split, and JLS are the hottest X Factor property now, followed by Jedward. >s<.
Journey South and Same Difference had briefer but successful careers too, certainly longer than say, Joe.
Quote I actually thought Amelia sang really well on Saturday, probably one of the best performances of the series. She never should have been kicked off in the first place and I hope she goes on to win the whole thing.'"
Not even close to the best of the series. The verse started off well, it should have picked up and gone to another level for the chorus... but it didn't, it went completely flat and dull. Agreed that she shouldn't have been kicked off in week 1, but at that time Janet was still pulling the wool over people's eyes and fooling judges into thinking she could sing, Misha and Sophie gave decent performances too. One week's live performance wasn't enough to gauge a proper opinion. Likewise Jonjo unlucky to have a bad week there, and James Michael given the presence of X Factor's worst ever finalist, Frankie. 2Shoes were definitely the best of the groups, but a terrible song choice for week 1 and the amazing lipstick smear from hell didn't help their cause any. That and Tulisa didn't put them together like the rest of the groups. Oh, and the pregnancy.
Quote ="Saddened!"Misha B is guaranteed a final spot and has been for weeks. They decided early on that she's marketable and have protected her throughout.'"
Whilst I think you may have a point, Tulisa and Louis surely would have known better than to tip the boat with their bullying/bitchiness comments a few weeks ago?
Quote Craig is okay, nothing more, Marcus is really, really boring.'"
I disagree with that. They're the best singers in the competition.
Quote Janet has fallen to pieces over the last few weeks but could perhaps have a decent album if she stuck firmly to ballads.'"
Ah, like Leona Lewis, then, a one trick pony.
Quote Little Mix or whatever they are called are appalling as well. Another act they've decided can fill a spot in the market and earn Simon some cash. But how can you have a girl band when they can't sing collectively and are all minging? It doesn't work. Terrible performances every week from them, although to be fair they've got the worst possible mentor.'"
I said from the off the groups had no chance. Their Halloween performance was probably their best to date, but even that wasn't a show-stopper.
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Amelia was the best of the bunch and could win it'"
Yes, if you take away Kitty, Craig, Marcus and Misha.
Quote The rest of them are mediocre at best, and the show in its present format may be killing itself off. I feel sorriest for Janet, who does actually have an interesting and different voice,'"
It would be interesting if she was 6 years old, but as it is, she's another Ellie Goulding, only crapper. Seriously, there isn't a redeeming quality about her voice at all.
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| Really surprised we never got to see any of the other acts who may have been recalled to the show waiting backstage nervously on Saturday. No, really I am.
Anyone would think none of them were even in the building, despite the public vote not having closed.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Really surprised we never got to see any of the other acts who may have been recalled to the show waiting backstage nervously on Saturday. No, really I am.
Anyone would think none of them were even in the building, despite the public vote not having closed.'"
You saw the Twitter feed announcing the result before the voting had closed too then
Its amazing that so many people continue to be scammed in this way.
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| Janet is a sure fire cure for insomnia
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