Yes, he died and now he lives on via his chosen medium of toast.

Its why so many churches are located next to bakeries.

Jesus definatly exists.....I swear I saw his face in my spaghetti hoops the other day.

That's what i think, a subtle WUM, funny thread though.

Poe's law, innit.

When you see him in spaghetti hoops it looks like he's wearing spectacles, he isn't though.

There maybe proof (or sufficient circumstantial evidence) that a prophet existed around the time, certainly no proof that he was the son of god.

Could that not have been a lie by others needing a focal point for a new religion?

It could, I'm more inclined to believe that there was some one around at this time who was a popular prophet similar to Mohamed , built up a following and did some decent things, the rest seems to have been blown out of all proportion by those who needed something to believe in. See Christian atheism for details.

I've read somewhere that there's not a single reference to Jesus in any historical text prior to the 2nd Century. If I get chance later, I'll try to dig out the actual quote.

great news for you chum !

so why did your/our God allow my wife to pass away just before christmas at the tender age of 56 years after leading an exemplary life in which she put others before herself and never thought ill of anyone whatever their colour, creed or religious beliefs ?

please tell me the answer because this irreplaceable love of my life has left me and I feel lost and heartbroken

how can a God which is supposed to be good allow such a travesty ?

why did God allow you to survive but not my lovely wife ?

why did he make her endure SEVEN years of hell if he is that powerful and great ?

FFS tell me the answer...

Wouldn't the lack of people being able to read and write kinda limit the amount of texts around at the time?
Partly the reason some think the whole Jesus story was a huge game of Chinese whispers.

IMO the Prometheus film theory is more believable than any religion.

One question for Kirkstaller, did God speak to you in a dream? Also did he speak to Jesus in a dream?

Can we be sure that he wasn't just half asleep and Swedish House Mafia's 'Dont you worry child' came on his alarm clock radio?

Happens to me all the time.

I once fell asleep with the while the rugby was on tv, for a brief moment I thought God was telling me to try a chip over the top.

One question for Kirkstaller, when god spoke to you. What accent did he use?

Had to be a Wigan accent, being God's country n'all.

'kin hell, another reason not to believe

Nonsense. Everyone knows God's a Yorkshireman. Kirkstaller will confirm this, the halo isn't a halo it's a flat cap, and if you listen very carefully you can hear his whippet barking in the background.

You heard it here first folks. God is against the licensing system.

To the OP:

"Judge not that that ye be not judged."

Looks like some of the fun places I visited in the navy.

As the British have sunk into the gutter once more, do you feel it's time for a revival in the Temperance Movement?

I don't know how many more texts were produced in the second century than the first, or indeed how many more people were literate at that time, so it's hard to say.

What I want to know is: why did Jesus appear to Kirkstaller dressed as a carpenter more than 2000 years after he'd made his last coffee table?