At least the families of the collateral damage can take solace in the fact they weren't directly attacked.



Ok.

To some, yes.

How are those bomb pilots more innocent than Saddam's men? I'm not sure what the repercussions would be for men not following Saddam's instructions but I bet it was far worse than what US/UK soldiers would face if they refused orders. Given Iraq's consistent human rights violations over the decades I'm probably even underestimating that. I doubt US/UK bomber pilots operated under the same amount of fear and stress yet they are able to still justify this? Isn't that just as cold-blooded a killing?

Don't take the righteous justification away from them otherwise their totally fooked.

They'll have nothing else to cling too.

Today in history - 31st December 1984 Rick Allens car accident ultimateclassicrock.com/def-lepp ... rash-1984/

Today in history - 31st December 1984 Rick Allens car accident ultimateclassicrock.com/def-lepp ... rash-1984/

20 years ago tonight the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORACLE_%28teletext%29ORACLE[/url teletext service disappeared from our TV screens

[url=http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2013/pdf/emancipation-proclamation-anniversary-brochure.pdf150 years ago today - The Emancipation Proclamation[/url

Not quite as altruistic as it first appears

[i"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not to either to save or to destroy slavery, If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it"[/i - Abraham Lincoln

Aye. He was a bit of a racist but I don't think that's mentioned in Spielberg's film.

The Emancipation Proclamation was a shrewd political move which ensured no European powers were going to enter the war on the side of the Confederacy.

Typical right-wing opportunism then? Nowt much changed since then, just tell everyone what they think they want to hear. Then when it comes to the end-game, hopefully it'll be someone else's problem. Lincoln left the whole sorry mess to Democrat Andrew Johnson to sort all the crap out.

Nowt much has changed really

Change right wing to left wing and you can describe the last 2 labour governments I've had the misfortune to live under in this country.

I wouldn't call it opportunism really. It was a calculated move after Antietam. Lincoln had always planned to issue the proclamation after a Union victory.

As for seeing it through, well he was assassinated with 3 years left of his term, as I am sure you know.

Are you simply reading Wikipedia?

No, why do you disagree with something I have written?

On this day - 1981 - This man was arrested after one of the largest (flawed) police investigations in British history.



It's not just nutters on RL Fans that God has spoken too, so it must be true.

My uncle got arrested for those murders twice.

Did he have a [iWearside[/i accent?

2/1/71 was the Ibrox disaster.

No, just interested in the similarity between what you post and certain Wikipedia entries.

That reminds me of one of BG's previous and thankfully short-lived avatars

On this day the inspiration for Boney Ms song Ra Ra Rasputin was founded. www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2 ... 17-archive

On this day the inspiration for Boney Ms song Ra Ra Rasputin was founded. www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2 ... 17-archive

There is a huge difference between Blair Peach and the Yorkshire Ripper...

Not in that dodgy avatar there wasn't

Simile -:

a) Murdered by the police.
b) Assisted to murder by the police.