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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"House.'"
Too slow. Axe2grind got there first, the race card trumps all others.
Quote ="AXE2GRIND"You are a racist'"
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| Quote ="Cronus":BOOHOO
No. You are are a racist.
I'm not name calling, I am saying what you are, a stone cold racist.
You may not even be aware of it, but your defense of the so called "no lies in it" poster, show that you are.
Your in depth description of where and when the picture was taken to defend the strap line "TAKE BACK CONTROL" shows you are a racist.
You can call me a snowflake (that's a first BTW
) but I can smell an intolerant racist at 20 paces and that is exactly what you are. Immigration is not the issue, but sure as hell the right wing will bring it up whenever the treatment of their own people is concerned. Patients are't passing away in hospital corridors because Turkey is joining the EU. Families aren't visiting food banks because of Syrian refugees. Homelessness isn't growing because of polish electricians.....but you'd rather blame the fallacy of uncontrollable immigration than look at right wing policies.
Nope. Yo are a racist. Call me a snowflake all you like, but that's what you are.
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"No. You are are a racist.
I'm not name calling, I am saying what you are, a stone cold racist.
You may not even be aware of it, but your defense of the so called "no lies in it" poster, show that you are.
Your in depth description of where and when the picture was taken to defend the strap line "TAKE BACK CONTROL" shows you are a racist.
You can call me a snowflake (that's a first BTW
) but I can smell an intolerant racist at 20 paces and that is exactly what you are. Immigration is not the issue, but sure as hell the right wing will bring it up whenever the treatment of their own people is concerned. Patients are't passing away in hospital corridors because Turkey is joining the EU. Families aren't visiting food banks because of Syrian refugees. Homelessness isn't growing because of polish electricians.....but you'd rather blame the fallacy of uncontrollable immigration than look at right wing policies.
Nope. Yo are a racist. Call me a snowflake all you like, but that's what you are.'"
The funny is thing is that you've shown yourself up again. You're arguing with a persona you want me to be, rather than what I actually am. You don't respond to the facts pointed out to you, you rant. You don't debate, you...oh whatever it's very boring.
You remind me of someone...
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| Quote ="Cronus"You don't respond to the facts points out to you, :'"
You claimed the poster wasn't false, then you claimed you were talking abut the picture, not the poster when you were found out with the facts.....Then you claim that I don't respond well to facts?
You are a racist and you know what, I think you know you are and you are happy that you are.
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"You claimed the poster wasn't false, then you claimed you were talking abut the picture, not the poster when you were found out with the facts.....Then you claim that I don't respond well to facts?
You are a racist and you know what, I think you know you are and you are happy that you are.
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You didn't answer any of my questions then, you won't answer any now. But I'll try again:
A genuine picture of some of the million+ immigrants invited into the EU by Angela Merkel flooding through the Balkans. A poster saying the EU has failed, let's take back control. Now - take this bit reeaally slowly so it sinks in - the EU had indeed completely failed to manage the immigration crisis, and the EU does indeed hold an enormous degree of control over our everyday lives, which those of us with some cohones and common sense want back.
As I've already acknowledged, it was crude and distasteful - but untruthful it was not.
I'm not sure which bit you're struggling with.
Anyone want a game of 'racist bingo'? How many times he can say 'racist' in his next post? I'll start at 3. [size=40bet I lose[/size
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| Quote ="Cronus"You didn't answer any of my questions then, you won't answer any now. But I'll try again:
A genuine picture of some of the million+ immigrants invited into the EU by Angela Merkel flooding through the Balkans. A poster saying the EU has failed, let's take back control. Now - take this bit reeaally slowly so it sinks in - the EU had indeed completely failed to manage the immigration crisis, and the EU does indeed hold an enormous degree of control over our everyday lives, which those of us with some cohones and common sense want back.
As I've already acknowledged, it was crude and distasteful - but untruthful it was not.
I'm not sure which bit you're struggling with.
Anyone want a game of 'racist bingo'? How many times he can say 'racist' in his next post? I'll start at 3. [size=40bet I lose[/size'"
The poster states that the EU has failed us all and then goes on to say it's time to take back control of[u =#FF0000 OUR BORDERS[/u. To be clear here, Britain never relinquished control of its borders to anyone......
.....I've never stated that the EU is perfect, I just pointed out the blatant lie in a poster.
I am 100% accurate here.....it made a claim about taking back something that wasn't actually taken away, but it used brown faces thousands of miles away for added impetus.
You are indicative of the stubborn folk who refuse to admit you were duped by these lies and false promises. You claim to be clever and know exactly what you were voting for but if so, you are in the minority. Nobody knows for sure what happens once you leave, but EVERYONE knows that the immigration fallacy and NHS bullsh17 lies were a major factor in the Leave vote winning.
As for racist Bingo. You are a Racist. There can be no doubt. The fact that you went into such detail about the picture in the poster but have repeatedly misquoted the wording shows that you know it was a lie and are painting yourself into a racist corner by continuing to deny it.
That's 3 BTW....you win
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| Quote ="Cronus"
Racism bore.
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It's not boring to me....but it certainly makes you feel uncomfortable to be exposed as a bigot. You probably convinced yourself that straight bananas, overpaid EU politicians and giving the NHS badly needed funds were the reasons you voted to leave, but the reality is that you just don't like foreigners.
In related news. If you go around conquering close to 2/3rds of the worlds surface, don't be stunned when those chickens come home to roost. A great example will be the cost of a FTA with China. As a result of our FTA agreement here in NZ with China, Auckland is now awash with some wealthy chinese but a bucket load of middle class chinese and their extended families. This has driven house prices up to unacceptable levels and Kiwi's can no longer get on the ladder. If you want to do business with these people, then your little racist heart will be all aflutter when boat loads of chinese arrive as the kicker to the deal
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"It's not boring to me....but it certainly makes you feel uncomfortable to be exposed as a bigot. You probably convinced yourself that straight bananas, overpaid EU politicians and giving the NHS badly needed funds were the reasons you voted to leave, but the reality is that you just don't like foreigners.
In related news. If you go around conquering close to 2/3rds of the worlds surface, don't be stunned when those chickens come home to roost. A great example will be the cost of a FTA with China. As a result of our FTA agreement here in NZ with China, Auckland is now awash with some wealthy chinese but a bucket load of middle class chinese and their extended families. This has driven house prices up to unacceptable levels and Kiwi's can no longer get on the ladder. If you want to do business with these people, then your little racist heart will be all aflutter when boat loads of chinese arrive as the kicker to the deal
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| [iOnly racists say they are not racist.[/i
[iOnly the racist lives by the heartbeat of denial.[/i
I envision Cronus as a more [iHarry Paget Flashman[/i type.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"https://boris-johnson-lies.com/'"
WMD?
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Is that white ,male, dominated - you've missed out old and grey from the acronym
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"https://boris-johnson-lies.com/'"
Peter Oborne - former right wing journalist and Brexit enthusiast, has had a Damascene conversion and now appears to be on something of a mission; good for him - there's nothing like watching client journalists squirm when called out by one of their own.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"[iOnly racists say they are not racist.[/i
[iOnly the racist lives by the heartbeat of denial.[/i'"
Are you racist?
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| Quote ="Cronus"Are you racist?'"
Only when I hang around this forum with the likes of yourself Flashman.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Only when I hang around this forum with the likes of yourself Flashman.'"
Well you didn't deny it so that must make you...RACIST.
See, that's how it works according to the left.
If you admit it...racist.
If you deny it...racist.
If you fail to deny it...racist.
If you question open immigration...racist.
If you mock Diane Abbott's maths...racist.
And on here if you post an examination of the media reaction to a picture...racist.
And that is why we all laugh heartily at the left. Buncha whiney mofos.
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See.....I don't need meme's to debate, just facts. Like the poster I put up that said take back control of our borders, which was a 100% lie, but was swallowed and supported by you to the extent that you outed yourself as a bigot.
The best part of me calling you out for being a racist isn't the fact that you are a racist, but that it makes you uncomfortable, because you've been "outed".
It will be nigh on impossible for anything you say from now on being taken seriously, because you are a racist.
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"See.....I don't need meme's to debate, just facts. Like the poster I put up that said take back control of our borders, which was a 100% lie, but was swallowed and supported by you to the extent that you outed yourself as a bigot.
The best part of me calling you out for being a racist isn't the fact that you are a racist, but that it makes you uncomfortable, because you've been "outed".
It will be nigh on impossible for anything you say from now on being taken seriously, because you are a racist.
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not an anti semite then?
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"See.....I don't need meme's to debate, just facts. Like the poster I put up that said take back control of our borders, which was a 100% lie, but was swallowed and supported by you to the extent that you outed yourself as a bigot.
The best part of me calling you out for being a racist isn't the fact that you are a racist, but that it makes you uncomfortable, because you've been "outed".
It will be nigh on impossible for anything you say from now on being taken seriously, because you are a racist.
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You couldn't make me uncomfortable on a bed of nails. Exactly as I said, you keep showing us all you're just the loudmouth bore who thinks he's 'winning'. You're boring, a that's about as kind as I can be.
You're not intelligent enough to get a rise out of me, as demonstrated by your continuous mistakes on here. Far better then you have tried and failed.
And let's not forget, you were going so badly you keep resorting to the only comeback you can scrape together:
Ps the poster was a factually correct picture with a factually correct backstory. HTH.
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| Quote ="Cronus"Ps the poster was a factually correct picture with a factually correct backstory. HTH.
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But that's not what you claimed, is it?
Here's a reminder of what you did say
Quote ="Cronus" There is nothing about the poster and the issue which is inaccurate or untrue.'"
I'd accept your apology if one was forthcoming, but given you've been outed as a racist bigot, I doubt you've the gumption to admit you were wrong
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"But that's not what you claimed, is it? '"
That's EXACTLY what I claimed
Quote ="Cronus"A genuine picture from the Slovenian border during the crisis of 2015 - shortly after Angela Merkel announced she would open Germany's borders.
In the words of [url=https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/jun/22/jeff-mitchells-best-shot-the-column-of-marching-refugees-used-in-ukips-brexit-campaign[uJeff Mitchell[/u[/url, the photographer who took this shot, the Slovenians were utterly unprepared and it was literally a flood; thousands upon thousands arriving on train after train..."it was endless"..."a conveyor belt".
He tells us it was mainly Syrians, but many Afghans, Turks and others, almost without exception young men, almost all heading for Germany. No checks, no borders.'"
Quote ="Cronus"I was discussing the reaction to an anti-EU poster using a genuine picture (confirmed by the photographer) of mass uncontrolled migration flooding through the Balkans...'"
Quote ="Cronus"That's a lovely rant, but bears zero relevance to the post I made, which focused on the background of the picture YOU posted - i.e. the mass influx of well over a million immigrants and refugees through the Balkans, prompted by weak EU leadership and Angela Merkel.'"
Oh god you're so bad at this it's wonderful.
*Edit* editing your post after I posted this...another cock-up I see
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