Starts this morning so worthy of a thread during it's duration. Looks like Sky are going to give it extensive coverage. The translator already on the job for them. 17 satellite courts set up around Norway for the benefit of bereaved victims families....Nice to see him give a right-wing salute as he entered the courtroom. Mind you, he is a commanding officer in his own army, apparently....He does look like a big brave Nazi fooking pig-coward.

Erm, what else were you doing when you wrote the title for this thread ?

Nutter.

Mad or just bad? That's the question Robbo.

I don't know what you mean?

Somebody sorted it b'cos I'm fooking hopeless. Technophobia Rules OK!

Anyways. Not Guilty plea. The 'Commander' was acting in self-defence of the Norwegian people...He must have held his own referendum?

Says he doesn't recognise the authority of the court. The Milosevic defence...

The bomb he detonated in central Oslo was colossal. When you see the structural damage it created it's a miracle there were only 8 fatalities....I'm just having a rethink. Seeing as the 'Commander' was living with his mummy at the time of the atrocities, I wonder if offered her a position in his 'army'?

Interesting programme about this on BBC2 last night. The fact that he surrendered was surely in his plan so he could get the chance to spout from his manifesto in open court with the world watching. Not insane at all.

The IRA defence as well, if memory serves.

Quite possibly. He could have gone the Coulson/Blair/Murdoch jnr route: I don't recall.

Although not a death-penalty advocater, if I was a parent of one of the many teenage innocents he slaughtered, I'd want my ten minutes locked in a cell with him, to forever wipe out that courtroom smirk he wore this morning!

Yup. I think it's the loony bin for this one judging by what he's having to say in court this morning (Tibet, Tolouse, Enoch Powell, Hitler, Sitting Bull). Interesting that Norway only has a 21 year maximum prison sentencing policy and that only 16% of the Norwegian public would want him to be given the death penalty.

Yeah, right. When Mr Breivik is potted, I wish I could get a bet on that he will never get out of jail. But he won't. (They'll keep adding 5 year stretches on). I accept that [iin theory[/i he could be released, but given his stated views and philosophy, he is never going to be deemed anything but a mortal danger to Norwegian citizens, and so trust me, he'll be in the clink till he shuffles off his mortal coil

Oh, I don't disagree....His mortal coil wouldn't last very long if he ever walked this earth a free man. I would doubt South America to be a safe option nowadays, unlike in the days of his bygone hero's.

And Hussein's as well.

What always strikes me is how stoic and dignified other nations are in the face of true national tragedy. The Japanese after the tsunami that killed thousands. The mass murder of tens of teenagers in a small populated country....I suppose the closest we came was when our 'Princess of Hearts' died in that Parisian underpass.

That was anything other than stoic

Shall I take my tongue out of my cheek?

Always dangerous to write off politically motivated offenders. I mean, Hitler didn't do too bad for himself after being tossed into jail over the Munich Beer Hall Putsch (bear in mind that he was facing a twenty year stretch until the very last minute).

Breivik is an odious individual. But societies and cultures change. Today he's viewed as a murderer. Tomorrow he could be a saint.

He himself says something similar in his manefesto

Given the constant media obsession with creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of ethnic division and the widespread drift to right wing politics we're seeing throughout the West I think there's a distinct possibility that Breivik will increasingly be viewed as some weird kind of heroic cultural conservative who was ahead of the curve.

Swap Breivik's name in that paragraph for Dally and then it all makes sense.....



Hasn't our favourite doom-monger been on a similar wavelength to the nutty Norweigian??.....(Well, obviously Dally was never going to go on a mad killing spree, but apart from that, they seem to share similar views on the future of Europe).....

If he killed the immigrants then he might have been held as some kind of hero to some but I don't think that many of even the most extreme of the extremists could have much sympathy at all with him.

Didn't some neo-Nazi groups distance themselves from him ?