It is reckoned for the second time that neutrinos have been found to travel faster than the speed of light. If this really is the the case what might the ramifications be, aside from a need to redraft the "laws" of physics? Any physicists or mathematicians (or anyone else) like to have a go at suggesting something logical?

The sun is not quite so far away as we thought and might possibly be a destination in the Virgin Holiday brochure once Richard gets his space craft hire business up and running ?

Probably put it in his winter destinations brochure.

Rules are rules, laws are up for interpretation.

The barman says ‘we don’t serve neutrinos in here’. A neutrino walks into a bar.

A neutrino walks into a bar.
The bartender says "We don't serve neutrinos in this bar."
The neutrino says "Hey, I was just passing through."


I'm not here all week, you'll be pleased to hear

It calls into question the whole basic laws of the universe.
Right now speed is fastest and time is linked to causality.
These findings if proven true throw all that into doubt.
You could have the mind blowing situation where the effect happens before the cause as just one example.
The latest thinking on it is that the Neutrinos are actually jumping between realities which is allowing them to take a short cut.
Of course it could all be down to a fault in the sensors in Italy.

To quote the worst science ever expressed in a movie..

"The neutrinos are mutating".

Was always happening to me as a kid was that - a clip round the ear'ole and the protest "What was that for ?" met with "Just in case".

And they say modern parents are bad

You should put that in the [iJokes Thread[/i.

It'll go down a bomb.

Italian neutrinos can travel faster than the speed of light if they are retreating.

Or going to one of Silvio's special parties.

I'm on a super advanced spaceship. You're on a super advanced spaceship. We're having a super advanced spaceship duel. Let's pretend that the weapons we're using cross the distance instantaneously. The rules are that we fly for ten seconds and then shoot.

So we're flying away from each other at FTL speeds and you've counted ten seconds (fair minded person that you are) and you shoot at me. My time is dilated in your frame of reference, so when your clock says ten seconds mine says five. I become enraged and shoot back straight away, failing to count to ten seconds. Your time is dilated in my frame of reference, so when my clock says five seconds yours says 2 and a half. My shot, which is a reaction to your shot, kills you before you have fired your shot.

So the ramifications are that you're a fair minded soul who plays by the rules who is dead for being a cheating ba5tard.

let me guess, is it "the sky will fall in"?

Wonder what else "Science" is wrong about........

Science is an admission of knowing nothing with a promise to do better.

Thought I'd found my vocation then. Until I read the second half of your sentence.

Does this mean my bottom could be splashed by the toilet water before the poo has even left my anus?

No, that just means that the curry you had last night has built up an incredible amount of methane pressure in your gut.

Disappointed. There are some jokes where it doesn't matter how many times it's been told, you can't let the opportunity go by.

You mean light speed? Maybe - if you ignore phenomena such as particle entanglement, where entangled particles seem to instantly "know" the state of each other, despite the distance between them increasing. Sort of instant communication. makes the speed of light seem stationary.


Yes, but we don't, which sort of chucks the bucket of cold water.


I like that, except (and with due respect to the scientists suggesting it) I favour the explanation that the neutrinos may enter another dimension for an instant before coming back to 'normal' dimensions. I think there's pretty incontrovertible evidence for a number of further dimensions, and it would make perfect sense if the reason entangled particles can "know" each other's state at a distance was because they are only apart in our normal dimensions, but are still together, or extremely close, in another dimension.

Sadly, I expect at the end of the day, that's what it'll be. I mean, it's not as if we don't already know all about the speed of neutrinos, from distant supernova explosions etc.; why should Italian neutrinos behave differently from the rest in the universe? Or maybe those whizzing by from interstellar space speed up a bit as they pass through Italy? Maybe they could try the same experiment in Holme Wood . . .

I humbly suggest that the question answers itself

Yes I meant the speed of light or [iC[/i.


Indeed

TBH that was lazyness by me I did actually mean dimensions.
Agreed.

I know there's a flaw in this but I'm REALLY struggling with it.

Maybe the rest of this bottle of wine will help. Best I can do is that as you're both fair minded gentlemen, ten seconds will pass equally on both ships, so both fire at exactly the same time (relative to each ship), and as both are doing the same speed, and have accelerated at the same rate, then to an external observer, both ships would fire and explode at exactly the same time, as both on-ship times will be identical to the external observer?

Bloody RFL , can't even sort out the speed of light properly