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| I do wonder how that man will have the gall to face her tomorrow. It'd be great if she blanked him.
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| Sadly, I'm sure he'll cope
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| The Queen could actually kill him if she wanted to and nobody would be able to do anything about it.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"I do wonder how that man will have the gall to face her tomorrow. It'd be great if she blanked him.'"
It would be more friendly than a live round.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"The Queen could actually kill him if she wanted to and nobody would be able to do anything about it.'"
Bomb vest and a little 'wink' of the eye
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| It shows how far the peace process has come so I think its a good thing.
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| I wonder if she'll apologise to him for her Governments part in Bloody Sunday?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"I wonder if she'll apologise to him for her Governments part in Bloody Sunday?'"
Wonder if he'll apologise for his organisation killing her husbands uncle?
I suspect neither will happen.
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| Quote ="SouthStander.com"
I suspect neither will happen.'"
Yes, it's a shame mind for the countries tourism industry. Boating vacations in southern Ireland have never really recovered.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"I wonder if she'll apologise to him for her Governments part in Bloody Sunday?'"
Why? Did the Queen personally order the cold blooded execution of innocent people?
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| Quote ="DHM"Why? Did the Queen personally order the cold blooded execution of innocent people?'"
Who knows what her Prime Minister of the day, and she, discussed during their weekly chat at Buckie house, back in the day?
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| There's nothing wrong with McGuinness that a speedboat packed with C4 wouldn't solve. Odious little terrorist sympathiser.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"There's nothing wrong with McGuinness that a speedboat packed with C4 wouldn't solve. Odious little terrorist sympathiser.'"
Agreed.
I would say, however, that moments like this are often catalysts for people to reconcile their differences. Regardless of how much I loathe Adams & McGuinness.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"It shows how far the peace process has come so I think its a good thing.'"
Completely agree.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"There's nothing wrong with McGuinness that a speedboat packed with C4 wouldn't solve. Odious little terrorist sympathiser.'"
Put Gerry Adams in there too and it'll be great.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"There's nothing wrong with McGuinness that a speedboat packed with C4 wouldn't solve. Odious little terrorist sympathiser.'"
And the Queen is the head of a nation that has a whiter-than-white record, yes?
Or are atrocities acceptable – if committed by and in the name of a state?
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Put Gerry Adams in there too and it'll be great.
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A Scottish protestant by any chance DMW? I am the son of a Scottish protestant merchant seaman who managed to get himself koshed and slung in an Italian prison for shouting 'fook the pope' in Rome's Venezia square....I suppose him drowning at sea when I was 5 saved me from some fervent religious indoctrination during my formative years!
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| Quote ="WIZEB"A Scottish protestant by any chance DMW?
I am the son of a Scottish protestant merchant seaman who managed to get himself koshed and slung in an Italian prison for shouting 'fook the pope' in Rome's Venezia square....I suppose him drowning at sea when I was 5 saved me from some fervent religious indoctrination during my formative years!'"
That is awful what happened to your Father in Rome and also the manner of his passing as well.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"That is awful what happened to your Father in Rome and also the manner of his passing as well.'"
I don't think he'd have been very impressed about my opinions on the Anglo-Irish troubles.
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| Well, I'm the daughter of a fundamentalist, Conservative, conservative non-comformist preacher. It's all bleedin' bonkers, but the hatred of other sections of the same faith for some matter of theological interpretation is insane.
I detest the Vatican etc – as should be perfectly clear to anyone who has been here for any length of time – but right-wing, fundamentalist, born-again Protestants are little better.
And in terms of the island of Ireland, it's actually rather a good thing to try to remove yourself from thinking of it in terms of religion and religious tribalism – or at least from the perspective of being in one of those tribes.
What has happened in the last 20 years is one thing I think John Major deserves praise for. Where we are now is infinitely better than where we were before Good Friday etc. It was a brave thing to go down that path.
And the likes of McGuinness and Adams showed bravery too – they'd have been dead themselves if it had failed.
Over the centuries, both sides committed atrocities. Although I'd suggest that, if you want to have some sort of competition on that score, then the British state would win hands down. Perhaps we shouldn't forget that.
And while I'm no ardent monarchist, today's events are part of a process that has seen genuine progress.
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| Quote ="Mintball"And the Queen is the head of a nation that has a whiter-than-white record, yes?
Or are atrocities acceptable – if committed by and in the name of a state?'"
The UK has been guilty of dreadful things but that doesn't make McGuiness or his organisation any less odious.
Just as small example, let's consider what we think about an organisation who would place a bomb in a litter bin, bearing in mind it was Saturday when there would be mainly families around, also bearing in mind that it was outside McDonalds on the the day before Mothers day, the day when the number of children around would be pretty high.
I'm not saying McGuiness did that personally but he was part of the group that did.
Odious is pretty mild actually.
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| Quote ="Mintball"...And while I'm no ardent monarchist, today's events are part of a process that has seen genuine progress.'"
Agreed.
Unpalateable though it is to accept it, it's necessary to move on.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"icon_lol.gif I don't think he'd have been very impressed about my opinions on the Anglo-Irish troubles.'"
He might have softened over the years though.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Agreed.
Unpalateable though it is to accept it, it's necessary to move on.'"
Indeed....'Before the Dawn'.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"The UK has been guilty of dreadful things but that doesn't make McGuiness or his organisation any less odious.
Just as small example, let's consider what we think about an organisation who would place a bomb in a litter bin, bearing in mind it was Saturday when there would be mainly families around, also bearing in mind that it was outside McDonalds on the the day before Mothers day, the day when the number of children around would be pretty high.
I'm not saying McGuiness did that personally but he was part of the group that did.
Odious is pretty mild actually.'"
If only the bog trotters had some nice new shiny, precision targeted tomohawk missiles. With a good PR machine they could even have avoided all this guff about innocent civillians and just talked aboput collateral damage.
Thank God England is so civilised.
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