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| The guy's a first class prat. I know plenty of people who go to both the football and Rugby League matches. So in turn he's just insulted his clubs own fans.
As if this city hasn't had enough people knocking it over the last few years.
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Being a band wagon City fan means that you wont know about a man called Adam Pearson, without him and the council owned telephone company called "Kingston Communications" the stadium would not have been built.'"
I have been a passholder since 1974 of Hull City , think it was 3 shillings to get in back in about 1970 when I first went . The Chairman then was Harold needler , we have had his son Christopher , Don Robbie , Richard Chetham , Michael Fish , Tim Wilby etc as Chairman since off the top of my head so if that makes me a bandwagan fan then tough . But as I have said , the onlty reason the stadium was built was because Hull City would be the main tenant . FC as the only tenant would not of made it viable. Listen to Humberside as Burnsey said tonight that he hopes to speak to a RL rep.re. the KC and non international event . The RL rep may blame Duffen but he may back what Duffen has said. PS. I have been going regularly to Fc since late 1975 when crowds were often round the 3 K make so that makes me an Fc bandwagon fan too.
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| Quote ="Kosh"The stadium would not have been built for City alone, so it works both ways. The whole point is that the project was only viable, and to an extent remains so, with both clubs using it. Something that both you and Duffen appear to have either forgotten or arrogantly chosen to ignore.
I normally steer clear of these arguments as I'm not really bothered about City one way or the other, but you're doing them no favours on here with your defence of the indefensible.'"
You are partly right in that it would be better for the stadium to be in use all year so FC would use it during the summer . However if only FC had committed to the move to the KC and City had elected to remain at BP then the stadium would not have been built. I know of several councilors who worked on the stadium project who said that Hull City had to be involved or the KC would not be built , but it would have been built if City had been the only professional tenants.You do need to be bother about City because without them FC would still be at the Boulevard playing in front smaller gates than at the KC .
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| Quote ="davey37"We don't expect any say.................the same way City Hull shouldn't have any say.
The SMC were given the task of running the COMMUNITY stadium and should do so showing no preference to either club that plays there
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That is what is happening . I get the feeling that you think SMC gives 100% preference to City and did not go the whole hog and have City play saturday lunch time Oct '07 so FC could play Wigan in a play off game the same evening .
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| Quote ="FC Tiger"You are partly right in that it would be better for the stadium to be in use all year so FC would use it during the summer . However if only FC had committed to the move to the KC and City had elected to remain at BP then the stadium would not have been built. I know of several councilors who worked on the stadium project who said that Hull City had to be involved or the KC would not be built , but it would have been built if City had been the only professional tenants.You do need to be bother about City because without them FC would still be at the Boulevard playing in front smaller gates than at the KC .'"
Whether this is true or not i couldn't give two hoots.
But the fact remains it is meant to be a community stadium run INDEPENDANTLY by the SMC on behalf of the council.
Now IF he has let his role with Hull City affect his decision as chairman of the SMC to allow an International RL match to be staged there then he needs to be made to answer why?
It's not just Hull FC fans that will suffer from this decision. Many Hull KR fans attend the test matches at the KC as well as fans from Yorkshire and Lancashire.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Christ you make me laugh.
One of the reasons I started to post on here was the absolute crud some of you posted about Hull City. The chairman makes one little joke and some of you are drowning us with tears. Get a back bone.
For those twittering about him resigning due to conflicts of interest, give your heads a rattle.
It's FC's board you need to be calling negligent because they've turned down every opportunity to get involved with the SMC. The plan was that they'd be equal partners, FC wouldn't do it. About the only input they had was to try to reduce the capacity. If they'd won that battle, you wouldn't even be having this debate.
Now, when all the works done you're expecting more say?
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So, about that 40K seater doncatser stadium....
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| Quote ="davey37"Whether this is true or not i couldn't give two hoots.
But the fact remains it is meant to be a community stadium run INDEPENDANTLY by the SMC on behalf of the council.
Now IF he has let his role with Hull City affect his decision as chairman of the SMC to allow an International RL match to be staged there then he needs to be made to answer why?
It's not just Hull FC fans that will suffer from this decision. Many Hull KR fans attend the test matches at the KC as well as fans from Yorkshire and Lancashire.'"
You should give 2 hoots because without the local fooball that the blinkered Rugby only people despise then there would be no international rugby locally . The venues for the internationals all host football clubs as the main tenant . Even in Hull , while I have been watching RL. , Boothferry Park was used many times to host GB internationals and at least one FC game against NZ early 80 's .
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| Funny how City only played at home once on a saturday between 1 Sept & 30 Nov isnt it.
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| Quote ="FC Tiger"You should give 2 hoots because without the local fooball that the blinkered Rugby only people despise then there would be no international rugby locally . The venues for the internationals all host football clubs as the main tenant . Even in Hull , while I have been watching RL. , Boothferry Park was used many times to host GB internationals and at least one FC game against NZ early 80 's .'"
Whatever the whys and werefore that you mention. The fact remains that we now have a COMMUNITY STADIUM that serves the greater COMMUNITY as a WHOLE. Now that includes RL fans, pop fans and football fans. If City had decided to stay at BP then the KC might not have been built. I can also assure you that you would now be playing Northern Premier football at best. So don't throw that arguement at us. City representatives failed on numerous occassions to be present at meetings re the KC and in fact it was one Shane Richardson who did most of the back breaking work to get the project off the ground.
As for BP being used "many times" for RL what the F has that got to do with anything.? If it wasn't such a pooh hole in the end it might just might have been used more. As it was I have seen more internationals at CP and The Boulevard than at BP.
MR D has failed to act in the interests of the whole community on this matter and for that he has cost the local area business and the City as a whole the opportunity of placing itself in the publics gaze. Now if he believes the City is best served with a poor Premier division side as opposed to international sport then so be it. But I fail to see how he can continue as the chair of the SMC as that attitude flies in the face of the COMMUNITY aspect of the stadium.
This whole situation in one go has simply ignited bad feeling throughout the community. D has also stoked the flames as well if his comment stated on here is in fact true. The man is a disgrace and clearly does not appreciate the City for which he is supposed to represent.
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| Quote ="RENDELL"
This whole situation in one go has simply ignited bad feeling throughout the community. D has also stoked the flames as well if his comment stated on here is in fact true. The man is a disgrace and clearly does not appreciate the City for which he is supposed to represent.'"
David Lloyd said something similarly derogitory about the people of Hull and got short shrift. I hope the same fate awaits Duffen.
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| why don`t we hit him the pocket and refuse to buy any drinks, food etc from the stadium.
COME ON THE BLADES
for tomorrow night.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Did anybody else just hear Mr Duffen then on Radio Humberside at the Hull City Forum?
David Burns asked him if he'd been answering lots of letters from the people who watch Rugby League to which he responded "that can't be true because they cannot write". He giggled away thinking it was very funny, some of us actually think this is a serious matter.'"
I will be able to read his fixture list next year. It will be under the heading Championship League.
He is an arrogant foolish fool
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| On Sports Talk last night Burnsy said that he is trying to get an interview with someone from Red Hall. Maybe we can get the other side of the story from Woods?
My knee jerk was that I hope City go down, because of this decision, but in reality I don't want that to happen!
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| Quote ="FC Tiger"That is what is happening . I get the feeling that you think SMC gives 100% preference to City and did not go the whole hog and have City play saturday lunch time Oct '07 so FC could play Wigan in a play off game the same evening .'"
All very interesting stuff and mostly correct in my book. HOWEVER you ARE totally and utterly wrong when you say it would have been built if only City played there! Having been part of the team that drew up the tenancy agreement for the Stadium and made the presentations to the Government when the local authority was asking the gov for permission to spend the £43m on the Stadium (As you have to do with Capital expenditure fro LA reserves), I can assure you the building of the KC was dependant on having 'At least 2 of the local proffessional teams as tenants'. Under law an authority cannot build a stadium for one club it is not legal or ethical.
Look at the Council minutes if you want confirmation of this in fact the then Leader of the Council Pat Doyle had to assure the full council that it would be used by at least 2 clubs (Rovers turned the chance down) before the project was voted on!
Without both hull Fc and Hull City signing up to play there it would not have been built!
For me as I have said on many occassions before all I want to know is how can Wigan give a concrete promise that a game can be played and City cannot! Thats the only Question for me! Football first me thinks!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"All very interesting stuff and mostly correct in my book. HOWEVER you ARE totally and utterly wrong when you say it would have been built if only City played there! Having been part of the team that drew up the tenancy agreement for the Stadium and made the presentations to the Government when the local authority was asking the gov for permission to spend the £43m on the Stadium (As you have to do with Capital expenditure fro LA reserves), I can assure you the building of the KC was dependant on having 'At least 2 of the local proffessional teams as tenants'. Under law an authority cannot build a stadium for one club it is not legal or ethical.
Look at the Council minutes if you want confirmation of this in fact the then Leader of the Council Pat Doyle had to assure the full council that it would be used by at least 2 clubs (Rovers turned the chance down) before the project was voted on!
Without both hull Fc and Hull City signing up to play there it would not have been built!
For me as I have said on many occassions before all I want to know is how can Wigan give a concrete promise that a game can be played and City cannot! Thats the only Question for me! Football first me thinks!'"
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| Quote ="Chris28"OWNED!
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And also further proof that there is no way FC could be kicked out as it would be in breach of this agreement for investment!
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| Quote ="FC Tiger"You are partly right in that it would be better for the stadium to be in use all year so FC would use it during the summer . However if only FC had committed to the move to the KC and City had elected to remain at BP then the stadium would not have been built. I know of several councilors who worked on the stadium project who said that Hull City had to be involved or the KC would not be built , but it would have been built if City had been the only professional tenants.You do need to be bother about City because without them FC would still be at the Boulevard playing in front smaller gates than at the KC .'"
Wilf has already owned you all ways up on this one. I just thought I'd have a little gloat as well.
The fact is that 2 clubs had to be involved or there would have been no stadium. City would not have got the KC on their own, it simply would not have been built.
For someone who claims to be both an RL and soccer fan it's rather clear to see where your loyalties actually lie. I'm beginning to think that you're just another poorly-disguised Tiggers troll...
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| Duffen is a 'here today gone tomorrow' speculator so I can't be bothered with what he says and for what its worth I will be there at City v Blackburn on Sunday. What has always perturbed me is the conflict of interests of first Pearson and now Duffen have with the football club and the SMC, and the perceived lack of involvement by the Hull board, because at the end of the day we are both tenants in a community stadium.
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| The council should step in and warn Duffen, he has done alot of damage to the community and lost alot of money by his decision, also I can see the RFL looking elseware in the future for internationals before considering the KC.
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| Quote ="FC Tiger"You should give 2 hoots because without the local fooball that the blinkered Rugby only people despise then there would be no international rugby locally . The venues for the internationals all host football clubs as the main tenant . Even in Hull , while I have been watching RL. , Boothferry Park was used many times to host GB internationals and at least one FC game against NZ early 80 's .'"
Totally irrelevant in my book.............hence the reason i couldn't give 2 hoots
Not making it a Hull City v Hull FC argument.
Just Duffen's role as Chairman of SMC shouldn't allow him to show favouritism to either team.
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| I've been told the Rugby League wanted to play when Hull Fair was on and thts why we didn't get a game at the KC Stadium, so not all the blame is Duffins.
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| Quote ="The caretaker"I've been told the Rugby League wanted to play when Hull Fair was on and thts why we didn't get a game at the KC Stadium, so not all the blame is Duffins.
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You've been told wrong then. The Four Nations doesn't start until the last week in October.
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| Quote ="The caretaker"I've been told the Rugby League wanted to play when Hull Fair was on and thts why we didn't get a game at the KC Stadium, so not all the blame is Duffins.
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Who is this??????????? Duffen has a point!!
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| The most amazing fact to come out of all this is the fact that so many people in Hull actually give a flying one about international RL!
Still, silly me for not remembering nearly being trampled to death in the stampede to get into the England v Samoa game t'other year.
Not to mention the fact that everyone has seemingly forgotten about the World Cup debacle.
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"The most amazing fact to come out of all this is the fact that so many people in Hull actually give a flying one about international RL!
Still, silly me for not remembering nearly being trampled to death in the stampede to get into the England v Samoa game t'other year.
Not to mention the fact that everyone has seemingly forgotten about the World Cup debacle.'"
Why would a so called City fan use a rugby forum?
My guessing is that you are a rlfans user, who is obviously using another account to wind people up. Every time something regarding City or the stadium, one of you always pop up around the same time!
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