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| I dont honestly think anything will come from it now and regardless if it does, it will not effect the club, just Sam who would have made a concious decision to play.
AS FOR ALL THOSE WHO SAID THAT YOU WOULD WIND HIM UP, YOU ONLY WOUND YOURSELF UP AND I THINK THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HALF YOUR DOWNFALL !!!!
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| As someone who is a qualified official and very familiar with RFL rules, Halifax RLFC have fielded an ineligible player. That is the bottom line. Sheffield will pursue this matter vigorously.
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| Ah well, whatever will be will be. We've screwed up so many times this year - what's another case lost? We're in the final again. Whoop de doop !!!
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| Quote ="Dr Badvibes"As someone who is a qualified official and very familiar with RFL rules, Halifax RLFC have fielded an ineligible player. That is the bottom line. Sheffield will pursue this matter vigorously.'"
You are Mark Aston and I claim my £10
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| Quote ="Dr Badvibes"As someone who is a qualified official and very familiar with RFL rules, Halifax RLFC have fielded an ineligible player. That is the bottom line. Sheffield will pursue this matter vigorously.'"
Well, no. Seeing a the RFL said he could play. How did you think that conversation went;
Halifax: 'Hi RFL, bit of a confusion about whether Sam Barlow can play. He's the write-up etc. What do you reckon?'
RFL: 'Ah right, well no he can't play to be honest. But we'll tell you and the media that we said ''we see no reason why he can't play'', but no, looking at that you have certainly got an ineligible player. Umm, play him and see what happens.'
Halifax: 'Oook, but the partyline is you've told us and the media he's ok to play'
RFL: 'Yes'
You can go crazy and sue Mr.Barlow all you like. If Halifax fielded an ineligible player, we'd be thrown out on Monday morning as that's the rules. As it happens, I can't see that happening because the club did the right thing by asking.
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| From the other thread...
Sam Barlow pobably have thrived off the stick we were giving him, will anything come of him playing tonight, who knows, but he must have immensely low standards as a human being, whether the stipulation was a verbal or contractual agreement it makes no difference in my eyes, certainly not in principle, a man who goes back on his word is a coward and I'm just glad he's not playing for my club anymore - and I mean that.
Although what I will add to this is that I've spoken to Sam on many occasions and to be fair he'd probably struggle changing a light bulb, if Fax told him it was alright to play he'll have just gone along with it, I still stand by it being cowardly though and he could've made the correct decision (morally) for himself, he's a grown man after all. Supposedly.
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| Quote ="Les West Guitar God"You are Mark Aston and I claim my £10'"
Haha, falsehood. Tubby is not a qualified ref that I know of.
I did once play at No.7 for Sheffield. IMBRL that is.
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| Quote ="Les West Guitar God"You are Mark Aston and I claim my £10'"
Badvibes isn't going to live that one down. He bloody wishes he was Mark Aston.
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| Your damned skippy I wish I was.
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| Quote ="Dr Badvibes"Haha, falsehood. Tubby is not a qualified ref that I know of.
I did once play at No.7 for Sheffield. IMBRL that is.'"
Ahh so as a qualified referee you know about RFL rules and procedures about contracts and procedures?
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| Yes. I'm familiar with them. I am giving my opinion based on what I know about the situation with Barlow and how it should be dealt with. Only two people know the whole story, and I'm sure the rest of us will a find out the rest soon enough.
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| Quote ="Dr Badvibes"Yes. I'm familiar with them. I am giving my opinion based on what I know about the situation with Barlow and how it should be dealt with. Only two people know the whole story, and I'm sure the rest of us will a find out the rest soon enough.'"
Are you one of the two people that know the whole story?
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| Nope. Course not. Im giving my opinion based on what the public know and the rules of the RFL.
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| Quote ="Dr Badvibes"Nope. Course not. Im giving my opinion based on what the public know and the rules of the RFL.'"
What are the rules of the RFL?
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| I'll look at those in detail tomorrow.
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| Quote ="Dr Badvibes"I'll look at those in detail tomorrow.'"
ahh so you dont know. Ok thanks for that.
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| Read my post again. I don't know what time it is in Halifax but it's late here and I can't be a**ed to get out of bed and find my rulebook out.
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| Quote ="Dr Badvibes"Read my post again. I don't know what time it is in Halifax but it's late here and I can't be a**ed to get out of bed and find my rulebook out.'"
Open the curtains mate, the RFL usually just throw it out of the window.
Sleep tight, see you next season.
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| Haha. Indeed, I'll be there, every week, home or away.
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| =#FF4000Please may I remind all fans that foul and abusive language is not permitted.
I also don't think that anyone should really be commenting on potential legal procedings. Failure to heed these warnings will result in me banning you until you can play nicely. Yep, even you badvibes!!
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| Indeed, if its going legal we should leave it alone. I was only giving my own opinion on the facts we have.
We'll know soon enough anyways.
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| "A personal appeal by an Eagles director to Barlow to honour the agreement in his release has been rejected by the player."
This speaks reams.............
....and then his behaviour and attitude on the pitch last night was appalling, and to be quite honest I believe he should have either used some nouse and kept quiet or been told by his coach/chairman not to bring attention to himself away from doing his job and let the rugby do the talking
Back briefly to contracts, verbal agreements and written agreements are the same in a court of law and once agreed by the parties concerned become legal.
As an aside surely 2010 means until 00.01 on January 1st 2011?
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| Quote ="SHORTEAGLE""A personal appeal by an Eagles director to Barlow to honour the agreement in his release has been rejected by the player."
This speaks reams.............
....[size=150and then his behaviour and attitude on the pitch [/sizelast night was appalling, and to be quite honest I believe he should have either used some nouse and kept quiet or been told by his coach/chairman not to bring attention to himself away from doing his job and let the rugby do the talking
Back briefly to contracts, verbal agreements and written agreements are the same in a court of law and once agreed by the parties concerned become legal.
As an aside surely 2010 means until 00.01 on January 1st 2011?'"
What on earth are you talking about, I think he did really really well to NOT get wound up by the Sheffield players. I dont think he did any foul tackle or anything else to warrant that sort of comment.
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| Quote ="spanishbob"What on earth are you talking about, I think he did really really well to NOT get wound up by the Sheffield players. I dont think he did any foul tackle or anything else to warrant that sort of comment.'"
were you at the same game? he was an utter disgrace and should be very ashamed of his actions last night
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| Quote ="lola"were you at the same game? he was an utter disgrace and should be very ashamed of his actions last night'"
Of course I was at the game and I have since watched it on tv and i cant see anything that Sam has to be ashamed of, during the game.
Wether he should have played is another issue, as I dont think he should have as his inclusion didnt mean the difference between a win and a loss, but come on I still have it on tape tell me what I am missing?????????
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