We should have cleaned it up and we didn't. We shouldn't allow other factors to control us. If we are the top side we're claiming, we cannot use excuses like this. We have to address our shortfalls and deal with them. Control the controllables.

No, no, no! It was the ref's fault. Have you not been listening?

Keep up, it was all the ref! We didn't have a chance to control the controllables as we kept getting penalised for firm but fair tackles.

I still haven't calmed down, sorry for the typo's n then correcting things that were already RIGHT ESO! I thought the ref was appauling n had a helping hand in our own distruction. Widnes r no better than us, we let them get the better of us tho. They played DIRTY

I was worried about this away fixture thinking Eagles were good. Glad I thought wrong

Knob

Sheffield are a decent side and will go well, both sides played a little dirty at times but your winger should have walked and sparked that brawl.

You couldnt match Widnes playing Rugby.

well how about some credit for a side thats unbeaten in the NRC and League, its not by fluke you know

Jog on you simpleton.

no honestly I though Eagles were better than cheap shots and spoiling tactics

Unbeaten in the league after so long in the season-I take my hat off to you! Its two games gone in the season, lets not get carried away now, both sides will be there or there abouts at the end of the season! Whats clear is that top Championship games are probably not the best place to throw in a 19 yr old ref.

hence why I said NRC as well numpty, but you chose to ignore that with your blinkered view, the ref was poor for both, its all about how your team handles it, we did, you didn't not once has a seagull's fan credited our win, one came close too earlier in the thread, so gracious in defeat aren't we....

You really want to include the Northern Rail Cup?! Im not doubting that you handled it better-we had this in the play off against Fev last year, its something we need to look out. I dont get why opposition fans go on their rivals' forum and get upset when they arent singing the praises of their team! Here goes, Widnes were amazing, Paul Cullen is the new Socrates and Terry O' Connor should be the new PM. Jog on back to your own forum you bore.

I won't praise you for the same reason I won't clap when the opposition scores a goal in football, the opposition takes a wicket in cricket or the opposition scores a try in rugby. Oh and also because you've come on here and acted like an absolute prick.

And just for the record, we were also unbeaten in the NRC, but who cares?

Since Widnes have been in the Championship / NL1 I have been fed up of seeing us bullied out of games by bigger packs, slowing rucks etc etc, and tbh believed it was up to us to stand up too it!

Finally for the first time we don't let 20 stone props bully are 20 year old athletes (generalisation I know) and we get called 'dirty' superb!

Sheffield have a cracking side which is well drilled and well balanced and I think they'll go far, but did a Ref ship 44 points at home? Smithy as an old style hooker & skipper will always be chirping in a ref's ear... Lowes, Cunningham etc. Ref should be stronger, I agree 19? There where players on the pitch that will have been pro longer than that and though the RFL don't like to admit it the Championship is a much stronger league than the one's these guys will have reffed in previously!

Sheffield got beat and if you was good enough you would have not shipped in 44 points.I am bored hearing the blame of the result is because of the referee.Look forward to the board when you play whitehaven.

I think that's the crux of the matter. Mark Smith IS an old style hooker and as captain, it's his job to question decisions and try and get the best out of the ref for his team. I think he did that today, as he usually does, but had the ref been more experienced, things may have been different. I've watched Warren Turley from being a National Conference ref, and he struggled there. And I have to say that I heard plenty of Widnes fans complaining about his performance as well, so it seems he was just as bad for both sides, but winning sweetens the pill, I guess.

The referees main responsibility is to control the game and protect the players. Mr Turney did not do either of these things at all yesterday.

I never blamed him for losing the game, you should know by now that in modern day RL you have to play the ref correctly as well as the opposition. It should not be that way but sadly it is.

Sensible post, as I'd already acknowledged our inability to see out games which are virtually won will come back to haunt us at the end of the season.

Carry on and you're banned.

I don't think I need to say anything else as it's pretty much all been covered.

Can all wannabe scousers now hitch hike back to their own forum. Thanks in advance.