I do believe Hull FC will be selling a separate mini season ticket for when the leagues split into 8. I think this could be the best way to go

Could be a hard sell. If you get three home games, what do you sell them for ? If you sell them for more than double your walk-up price, folk will start thinking they'll be out of pocket if they miss just one game. If you sell them for double or less, that's one hell of a discount.

OK - we're likely to get four home games, but the principle's the same.

There's been nothing like this before so clubs are just going to have to go with their gut feelings.

The whole proposed system is utter bobbins

Is that good or bad ?

Not very good, I had to self censor bobbins in place of a similar sounding word

Thanks for clarifying.

Only solution I can think of at the minute is clubs have two prices for when the leagues split into 8

Price A for 3 home games and Price B for 4 home games with each giving a saving on the match day price.
Obviously the club's couldn't sell these until it was known whether they have 3 or 4 home games which wouldn't give them much time to sell them.

I'm not to sure what else clubs could do? apart from have the league's of 8 games pay on the day but as we've seen with the playoff's and Challenge Cup in the last few years pay on the day has been a bit of a flop

Well- yeah -obviously the price would depend on how many home games you were getting.

I was thinking along the lines of how you'd set that price at a level which would make people want to buy them.

Look - we're likely to have four home play-off games, whether we make the cut or not. Suppose our walk-up price is £15. If you sell the mini-season ticket at, say, £50, then folk will think "If I just miss one game, I'm out of pocket." But if you sell them at £45 (or less), that's a big discount on the walk-up price.

And you're right - not much time to sell them is there ? A week ? Two, maybe ?

I'm thinking it's not practical. You have to go for the whole season.

In that case I would sell them at £45 (or less) based on a £15 walk up price. I don't think people will turn up for pay on the gate games as mentioned in my last post also supporters like to make a decent saving which is why a lot buy full season tickets.

Maybe they could do a whole season ticket where in the very unlikely situation we go into the bottom league of 8 with only 3 home games they could refund 1/15th of the season ticket price or make a discount for renewing the following season or some other offer?

Why not sell a season ticket based on 14 Games (11 League 3 8's) but include an free extra ticket incase we have an extra home game in the 8's.

I presume in the Challenge Cup revenues are split between both clubs if not you could sell a season ticket based on 15 Games (11 League 3 8's and 1 other game either Challenge Cup or 8's in the unlikely event of us not having an additional game you could return the ticket to the club for a refund or give it to charity)

Aye, it's when you start thinking about the nuts and bolts of how it'll all work that it starts falling to pieces.

I think clubs will end up selling tickets for the whole season and just guess where they think they're going to finish.

I don't necessarily agree about season ticket holders not going to all-pay games, Zilla. I'm not convinced that that's because they're not included in the season ticket. It seems more likely to me that it's because they're poorly promoted, played (usually) at short notice or that they are thought likely to be one-sided. But unless someone comes up with a season ticket that covers these games (and you'd need the agreement of the away club if it was a shared gate game), then we'll never know.

Think your quite right, has to be for the whole season.

Suggestion for you: Go for a season ticket that is priced to cover 15 home games (11+4) and if you only end up with 14 home games (11+3) then you offer all season ticket holders a £10 discount if they buy a season ticket for the next year by a certain date.

Maybe a membership scheme could be the way forward? one or two clubs seem to be adopting it

Basically, it's just a season ticket with added extras. Not that that's a bad thing.

Probably the future is some kind of season ticket you can use at any game, coupled with the "extras" that make up a membership scheme. But that's the future ......

Bit negative for you, Dave.



I'd sell them as 14 games but - hey - who knows - there might be a 15th !!

Anyway for the foreseeable future, I'd tip we're going to be in the top eight of the second twelve, which would mean 15 games (11+4).

Exactly, we're either going to sneak into the second eight (only 2 current championship teams will do that - in all likelihood) or we'll be in the top part of the bottom eight. Either way we'll have 15 home games.

Imagine someone coming down from Mars and reading that sentence.

Ah - they speak English on Mars, then?

Maybe a bit negative, but just trying to think how a CEO might view it



Has it been stated that the 4xChamionshoip sides in the middle eight will get 4 home games? If so I missed this and going with a season ticket of 15 games for us (Sheff, Fev, Fax, Leigh is defo the way to go).

However again it gives me more concerns in that I suspect ff this is the case it will lead to sides resing players in rounds 20-23 when you realise that you are already in the middle eight. I.e. why risk players when the last 7 games are the ones that matter.

As an alternative why not have SL9 & 10 + CH1 & 2 have 4 home games and SL11 & 12 + CH3 & 4 have only 3 home games giving more incentive to finish in the top 2 of the SL bottom 4 and CH top 4?

Yes, it's the top four in Eights One and Three and the bottom four in Eight Two. Totally logical.

It's all madness....

there could be 8 matches in the middle 8 if the 4 coming down played the other 4 home and away?

Aye, tag another week on the season.

suggested this ages ago, you take the points from the 6 games against the other teams going into the middle 8 and then play the other 4 teams home and away, this would give you a full season in essence in the middle eight.


But no playoffs in the middle eight except the 4v5 playoff game so time here for the extra week.

Then again why have a 4v5 playoff game if you have a full season of results (all teams home and away) so will never happen.

Money, Dave.

All too right