Incorrect never wore a Widnes shirt... we only take the good Welsh lads

im sorry its hard to take a proven liar seriously. you add nothing to this debate and are an embarrassment to this sport quite frankly

Nope. When a player is on a season long loan, the home club has no say.

Saints broke it up! You can't loan a loan player can you!

widnes should have loaned him to saints and we would have gone full circle! Does anyone base their statement on any known facts or just what sounds good? rlfans is getting more and more confusing. maybe posts should carry a warning:facts may be plucked from thin air. not having a go at you j20, just wondering if we try to hold ourselves to any standards on this site!

Why ever not? He was paid for by the Crusaders, not Saints.

No because I'm single at the moment so it's not an issue unfortunately.

Can't think why

Maybe arguing with you every day of my life rather then going out to meet women?

Glad to be of service.........

… to the women of the world

Hey it's all good fun, + never know what Friday night may bring.







Back to the Crusaders, if they do take their games away from Bridgend what about the fanbase they've already established there

Chlamydia?




...the same thing that happened to our fans from Charlton and Brentford....they will either make the effort of stop going. It's a 20 minute train ride between Newport and Bridgend, so the true fans will probably do it.

Nah, I'm off out round [iHull[/i.











Be a pain though. I wouldn't mind driving outside Hull to see Rovers but it's easier not having to. You'd have though the club would want to get stability and build a fanbase rather then the 'roadshow' idea that appears to be being suggested in the press.

Also … isn't the plan to move to Newport for two years, while Bridgend is redeveloped/ new ground built, then move back??

Ah right. Newport's pretty much another Union stronghold though really isn't it?
To be honest in the long-run I just can't see it working for them as an SL club, NL1 or 2 maybe but feel it's being way too rushed.

Yup!

Same side moaning about how credit crunch meaning they strggling to pay players on time etc... yet planning a new stadium?

Anyone else smell alot of Bull there?

KK!



Am just sure when we got him was through Saints!

Surely you can't loan a player that's not yours can you? Think offically Saints reclaeed him, loaned him to Widnes and then Saints reloaned him back to Cru again for rest of the year!

Still prob needed nod from Cru but he wasn't playing anywho, so that's why from what I gather Saints sent him to Widnes for a bit (enede early with injury)!

If people read Dalle Court's item they would know that they were all paid on time. Our side as struggled as do all new teams in SL' What I don't understand is that our crowds are much higher than Quins and not far off Salford yet we bear all the criticism and abuse. Over the years I have had to put up with union belittlement but they do it much more nicely than this constant rubbish from up north.

Thought Samuel admitted there was delays... but blamed it on admin rather than cash flow? (somethin like that).

Reds & Quins are really poor for 80+ yr old clubs! Shame that the Manchester / London / Wales sides ahve the lowest but your right Cru do take a lot of flack I guess!

Quins always use footy or rugby as an excuse and Reds footy... Cru prob get most pop as your the new boys under old rukes wouldn't of been in SL yet is all I guess... and ALOT is anger about RFL (in general) yet your the only one with a message board etc!

I couldn't be bothered trying to find the decent posts in between the guff from the idiots and the trolls so apologies if im repeating what someone else has already said.

Who cares if there were free tickets? Surely in their first season its a good idea to give out free tickets (just like Hudds) to try and generate interest.
In the end it was a higher attendance than when Leeds played at Quins and nearly as high as when Leeds played at Wakey.
Celtic and their fans should be applauded for getting so many people there when it was obvious they were going to get a kicking anyway.

As for the bitter Widnes fans, I can understand their frustration to a point but why aren't they focusing their anger on Salford, they have a poor team, poor ground, poor attendance and dont offer the expansion advantage that Celtic do.

In the end if we want the game to survive and prosper in the modern world of media run from London we have to expand the game. Thanks to Celtic being in SL there are thousands more people directly exposed to rugby league than before, not to mention the extra thousands who will play it in schools and amateur clubs thanks to Celtics involvement.
There will be always a decent rugby league representation in Widnes and in the heartlands. There may not be in Wales if we dont help it.

The best way of hurting Rugby League last year was to admit Salford and Widnes to Super League. Imagine how much the w@nkers in the media and the BBC in London would have loved that. "RL is only played on the M62"
It's the perfect excuse to give RL even less coverage than the pathetic amount we get so far.
If we can over a few years get a competitive team in London, a competitive team in Wales and slowly develop a competitive international scene with France and Wales then they cant ignore us.
If we hide in our safe little shell and only travel up and down the M62 every other week RL will slowly wither and die.

Agree with Big Rob!

Well said!

in the end any thinking anti-expansionist or anti-rfl critic has to come up with a meaningful, timetabled and funded alternative to what is happening or else by default they are supporting rl to "slowly wither and die" whatever they might say superficially. Then the debate might have some worth and in fact be essential. The trolls have no worth at all of course