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| Ticket prices are £8 for adults £4 for children. Good value for a super league match i think.
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| Quote ="SHAYMAS"Ticket prices are £8 for adults £4 for children. Good value for a super league match i think.'"
great value hope many people take advantage of that
3k already sold any links dont really believe that but hope a good gate is on show though
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| 3000 sold already is good news though, strange time to play it but all three sides that usually play out of the Gnoll are playing on the Easter weekend, so I guess the pitch needs time to recover. The club certainly has alot more credibility than last year certainly on the pitch as well as off which is great to see.
We'll wait and see what comes Thursday and see what the followers of the game in South Wales think.
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| 3000 tickets sold already?
I challenge that. I REALLY challenge that. We didn't get 3000 against Quins when we actually HAD a Superleague team down here.
SWS are getting just over 600 in C1. Most of the ex-Celtic Crusaders supporters seem to be not bothering, other than the handful that travel up North.
A quick question for Port.
If Mike Turner is running a professional outift this year, why did Mike Turner run a shambles last year.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm impressed the way Wrexham Crusaders averages double the attendances Celtic Crusaders did and obviously Moss' money seems more secure than Samuel's money, but why the rush to slag off what we had?
The "opportunity" to see a Superleague team? That would be as exciting as the thief that stole my bike giving me the "opportunity" to watch him ride it past me.
Better that the brand is built exclusively in Wrexham and stop pretending they care about us.
Good luck to you and all, but enough of the crocodile tears. We all KNOW that after the licenses are awarded South Wales will never see the Crusaders again.
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| Quote ="Grendel"3000 tickets sold already?
I challenge that. I REALLY challenge that. We didn't get 3000 against Quins when we actually HAD a Superleague team down here.'"
[url=http://www.slstats.org/2009/4/13/Celtic+Crusaders+V+Harlequins+RL.htmlhere you go[/url......
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| Quote ="gutterfax"[url=http://www.slstats.org/2009/4/13/Celtic+Crusaders+V+Harlequins+RL.htmlhere you go[/url......'"
You got a job yet , or is Abi still keeping you ?
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| Grendel..........I have great difficulty reading your posts.........can you write in english please
its weird but they appear like this to me and perhaps others ?
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| Quote ="Grendel"If Mike Turner is running a professional outift this year, why did Mike Turner run a shambles last year.'" The answer is that Mike Turner has nothing to do with the running of the club this year. He is totally incompetent and the new regime know this, he's now a 'commercial executive' or something and is being kept as far away from the actual running of the club as possible.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"[url=http://www.slstats.org/2009/4/13/Celtic+Crusaders+V+Harlequins+RL.htmlhere you go[/url......'"
that means we had over 3000 then!!
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| Quote ="Traffic"icon_biggrin.gif that means we had over 3000 then!!'"
Yep.
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| Any fresh injury news for the hectic easter fixtures?
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| Quote ="garroway"Any fresh injury news for the hectic easter fixtures?'" Raynor should be fit again so looks like a fully fit squad apart from Lee who is out long-term. Some new signings to possibly come as well.
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| Quote ="port64"Grendel..........I have great difficulty reading your posts.........can you write in english please
its weird but they appear like this to me and perhaps others ?
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Really Port? REALLY?
Well perhaps you should get some one with an education (that's learnin' in your language) to read it to you. Why not get the seven year old that writes your posts out for you to do it.
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| Quote ="headhunter"The answer is that Mike Turner has nothing to do with the running of the club this year. He is totally incompetent and the new regime know this, he's now a 'commercial executive' or something and is being kept as far away from the actual running of the club as possible.'"
Couldn't be further from the truth. Mike Turner is 100% involved and is one of the men in charge of marketing which is his forte. He inherited a shambles at the start of 2009 after the people who'd previously run the club made mistakes, ran it into the ground and said "there you go I'm off, I'll leave you to it". The club was on its knees by March due to things not being done properly from July 2008. Leighton Samuel had then run out of money and it was left to Mike Turner to try and run things single handed while at the same time searching for new investors. Whatever mistakes he made (everyone does, we're human), he's the one who struck the deal with Wrexham to save the club. He's now the man in charge of marketing and sponsorship up there and you can work the results out for yourself. And who do you think brought in Brian Noble, Iestyn Harris and Jon Sharp?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"[url=http://www.slstats.org/2009/4/13/Celtic+Crusaders+V+Harlequins+RL.htmlhere you go[/url......'"
Thanks Gutterfax. That's the offical attendance figures. Samuel had a history of exaggerating figures either way. For the fire officer you can subtract 500. For the RFL you can add 500.
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| Quote ="Cardiff Cymru"Couldn't be further from the truth. Mike Turner is 100% involved and is one of the men in charge of marketing which is his forte. He inherited a shambles at the start of 2009 after the people who'd previously run the club made mistakes, ran it into the ground and said "there you go I'm off, I'll leave you to it". The club was on its knees by March due to things not being done properly from July 2008. Leighton Samuel had then run out of money and it was left to Mike Turner to try and run things single handed while at the same time searching for new investors. Whatever mistakes he made (everyone does, we're human), he's the one who struck the deal with Wrexham to save the club. He's now the man in charge of marketing and sponsorship up there and you can work the results out for yourself. And who do you think brought in Brian Noble, Iestyn Harris and Jon Sharp?'"
So when things go wrong the man in charge can blame the previous incumbents but when things go well it's all him?
Did the RFL task force (you know, the ones who got Brian noble on board and who still pay him) have nothing to do with it?
I didn't know you posted on here Mike.
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| Sometimes there's just too much to do to save things. Like I said, he made mistakes, everyone does, but I know how committed he was in trying to save the club when it was is in the crap and I firmly believe that if he had been at the club from 2007 rather than a certain other person whose initials would be Dreadfully Tiresome to mention, things would have been a lot better. Perhaps some of the same errors would have been made but you can be rest assured that a sponsorship deal with stupid conditions wouldn't have been signed and the marketing for Super League would have started in July 2008 not December.
No it's not just Mike up there, he's mainly the sponsorship and marketing guru now, something he does best as can be seen from previous clubs. The good thing about the Crusaders now is that there are at least three times the staff doing things from the marketing, media and administration.
The other things that are going well up there compared to Bridgend are...
Wrexham having a dedicated local daily paper - Bridgend may have had the Gazette which was very supportive but it was a weekly and if it's in a daily it's thrust home more. There was the Echo but it's Cardiff-based and had other priorities. Up in Wrexham, The Leader gives the Crusaders front and back page on a semi-regular basis and are very supportive.
The council - The Wrexham council saw Super League as an event straight away and immediately promoted the Leeds game around their town with banners, posters and flyers etc. They even did a mailshot and have seconded one of their media guys to assist in writing articles and organise match days. The Bridgend Council allegedly refused to do this as "they didn't see Super League as an event".
Lack of competition - in South Wales, there are eight more full-time professional clubs, in North Wales there are none and they wanted a team to support. The population of South Wales may be a lot more but there's a lot more competition for the money too.
However this week, the Crusaders are back down here, they're a better team on the field too as we all know and I think this will be a game and night to remember against Quins.
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| Fair play CC, I hope you enjoy the game. I'll be doing other things myself. Either shopping or rendering by the looks of it.
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| Hey Cardiff Cymru
Grendel used to think I was Mike Turner , now he thinks its you
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| Quote ="Cardiff Cymru"Couldn't be further from the truth. Mike Turner is 100% involved and is one of the men in charge of marketing which is his forte. He inherited a shambles at the start of 2009 after the people who'd previously run the club made mistakes, ran it into the ground and said "there you go I'm off, I'll leave you to it". The club was on its knees by March due to things not being done properly from July 2008. Leighton Samuel had then run out of money and it was left to Mike Turner to try and run things single handed while at the same time searching for new investors. Whatever mistakes he made (everyone does, we're human), he's the one who struck the deal with Wrexham to save the club. He's now the man in charge of marketing and sponsorship up there and you can work the results out for yourself. And who do you think brought in Brian Noble, Iestyn Harris and Jon Sharp?'" I'm not denying that he tried his best to save the club last year. But that doesn't mean that he is in any way competent. He may be good at sorting out sponsorships etc, but that's not what the original post was about, and like I say he now has nothing to do with the daily running of the club and it's a lot better for it.
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| Fair play to Turner, the marketing in Wrexham has clearly been much better than in Bridgend. Whether money, the council, or whatever were the main constraints - I have no idea, but many, including myself, will not forget the lies Turner fed us.
Love Crusaders. Hate Turner.
There'll be a couple of thousand Black and Yellow scarves on Thursday, I reckon.
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| Quote ="port64"Hey Cardiff Cymru
Grendel used to think I was Mike Turner , now he thinks its you
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No I never have Port.
You've never really been interesting enough for me to care who you are.
Nice try though.
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| Quote ="Grendel"Thanks Gutterfax. [size=200That's the offical attendance figures[/size. blah blah conspiracy theory Blah blah.'"
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| Quote ="ajhcrusader"Fair play to Turner, the marketing in Wrexham has clearly been much better than in Bridgend. Whether money, the council, or whatever were the main constraints - I have no idea, but many, including myself, will not forget the lies Turner fed us.
Love Crusaders.
Hate Turner.
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Not a Newton Heath fan are you by any chance?
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| been called off your game boys!
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