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Seriously, feel sorry for you. Someone, somewhere has made a major balls up. Hope your club dolesn't suffer too much because of this.
How come it has taken so long to come to light? Does anyone know what happened?
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you're correct. The players cannot now work in the uk.
Once the borders agency have completed their investigation, we should have an idea of any behaviour that implicates the crusaders management.
Now, just for the sake of discussion and debate from an embittered entrenched old geezer who's only shape of cap is flat: what would you suggest if the crusaders club are implicated?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan":yzbmxtidYour club hasn't yet fallen foul of anything. :yzbmxtidIt's the players who have made a mistake so far.:yzbmxtid Hopefully, the Borders Agency won't find anything that can be interpreted as the club knowingly employing illegal immigrants. If they cannot prove that then the club is home free.'" to come clean and start to be honest in their dealings with all clubs
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|  maybee the club hasnt been indicated yet as to this sorry mess but if u read the Official Club statement its a total loads of bollox ...to try and put a positive spin on this massive cock up is beyond all us CC fans ....Always we are treated like mushrooms (kept in dark and fed S**T ) Summat major has to happen now the club wether instigated or not is fast becoming a joke . What with the newport move, the proposed change of name and badge ,its laughable......oh and by the way chaps not all crusaders fans are Welsh  some of us moved here and yes by choice |
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It's about time we all pulled together to help with the odd loan here and there to help them out.
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Is it that big a deal? Really? Assuming Celtic haven't colluded in some dodgy dealings with the players (if that was the case, then yes it is a bloody big deal) and have been duped along with the authorities, then they would be looking at a few new players next year anyway. You're not going to plan to go into next year with the same team that finished bottom. Marketing is all well and good, but the only thing that is really going to get bums on seats is a winning side - take the positives and see this as a chance to get some new blood into the side.
I'm not sure of how the fans think about some of these players involved, but most clubs have one or two players fans wouldn't mind seeing the contracts cancelled for!! (OK, maybe this is too optimistic a viewpoint, but every cloud etc..)
So chin up, and as long as your club haven't knowingly done anything dodgy, we'll have forgotten about this when the playoffs come round. Well, apart from some rather bitter fans from round these parts!
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quite fun to play guess the club by reading the posts on here, and then look at the posters header to see if your right.
heres a tip..................fans and club a disgrace, you can narrow it down to a nrl1 side, ground mentioned, its widnes!
support, most of sl
support but want them thrown out and all resulted null and void...bulls
offer of help er...................then again were only on page 8
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Wouldnt count on Ppl forgetting it chemic lol .....its just that this is just one more thing, wether it be the club or wether it be the individual players its the way ppl in charge go about things
www.crusadersrfl.com/newsstory16.htm
read the statement its a bloody joke ...this is sort of stuff that happens The players have been great the coachin staff have been great but it seems behind the scenes hasnt been great ...and we have gone from a great family orientatd club to bit of a joke in few months
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Wouldnt count on Ppl forgetting it chemic lol .....its just that this is just one more thing, wether it be the club or wether it be the individual players its the way ppl in charge go about things
www.crusadersrfl.com/newsstory16.htm
read the statement its a bloody joke ...this is sort of stuff that happens The players have been great the coachin staff have been great but it seems behind the scenes hasnt been great ...and we have gone from a great family orientatd club to bit of a joke in few months
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| Quote ="chapster"easy one nrl1 team with a grudge...am i right...no crap nrl2 team with a grudge, pending!'"
NRL 1 and 2 , I didn't know there were 2 leagues in OZ
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Wouldnt count on Ppl forgetting it chemic lol .....its just that this is just one more thing, wether it be the club or wether it be the individual players its the way ppl in charge go about things
www.crusadersrfl.com/newsstory16.htm
read the statement its a bloody joke ...this is sort of stuff that happens The players have been great the coachin staff have been great but it seems behind the scenes hasnt been great ...and we have gone from a great family orientatd club to bit of a joke in few months'"
Welcome to Real Rugby League!! Sadly, many clubs have always been professional outfits run by amateurs. At Widnes I think we've seen it all - we've had board members not turning up for crucial meetings because they 'had a snooker match', we've had chairman on the pitch saying 'Super League is in the bag', then not turning up for a crucial meeting thinking everything was OK and, oh dear they all voted against us, we've had a rather suspicious boxing promoter in charge of us just to try to use the stadium to help his 'negotiations' with the football league, financial crisis' galore, employed a coach who was also an agent and just employed all his crap players, we've been relegated when not finishing bottom, we've been saved from relegation by league re-organisations, and the list goes on....
Anyway, RL clubs are tough cookies and whilst you might be new, it seems that enough of you have a passion to keep the club going. Yup, daft statements from the club are just part and parcel of it. Keep the faith and at least you can understand what your coach is talking about....  |
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Wouldnt count on Ppl forgetting it chemic lol .....its just that this is just one more thing, wether it be the club or wether it be the individual players its the way ppl in charge go about things
www.crusadersrfl.com/newsstory16.htm
read the statement its a bloody joke ...this is sort of stuff that happens The players have been great the coachin staff have been great but it seems behind the scenes hasnt been great ...and we have gone from a great family orientatd club to bit of a joke in few months'"
Welcome to Real Rugby League!! Sadly, many clubs have always been professional outfits run by amateurs. At Widnes I think we've seen it all - we've had board members not turning up for crucial meetings because they 'had a snooker match', we've had chairman on the pitch saying 'Super League is in the bag', then not turning up for a crucial meeting thinking everything was OK and, oh dear they all voted against us, we've had a rather suspicious boxing promoter in charge of us just to try to use the stadium to help his 'negotiations' with the football league, financial crisis' galore, employed a coach who was also an agent and just employed all his crap players, we've been relegated when not finishing bottom, we've been saved from relegation by league re-organisations, and the list goes on....
Anyway, RL clubs are tough cookies and whilst you might be new, it seems that enough of you have a passion to keep the club going. Yup, daft statements from the club are just part and parcel of it. Keep the faith and at least you can understand what your coach is talking about.... | |
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| Quote ="Starbug"NRL 1 and 2 , I didn't know there were 2 leagues in OZ
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yes sorry
forgive me for mixing up the nrl in australia, with the nl1, just sometimes reading the posters on here, from the nl1, they have exactly the same standard of rugby, facilities, fans, and in some case locations
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| Quote ="chapster"yes sorry
forgive me for mixing up the nrl in australia, with the nl1, just sometimes reading the posters on here, from the nl1, they have exactly the same standard of rugby, facilities, fans, and in some case locations
again sorry'"
Well, Lyon Price agrees Blackpool is better than Bondi Beach, and many NL fans don't need to sit in a grass bank to watch a game, so yup - we do! |
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| Quote ="Starbug"Dont talk utter bollox
No matter what the players have done as regards paperwork , they will have been ' led ' by the club and the RFL '"
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| Quote ="chapster"yes sorry
forgive me for mixing up the nrl in australia, with the nl1, just sometimes reading the posters on here, from the nl1, they have exactly the same standard of rugby, facilities, fans, and in some case locations
again sorry'"
Do you mean Championship and Championship 1
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| Quote ="The Unknown Chemic":23fxvzciWell, Lyon Price agrees Blackpool is better than Bondi Beach, and many NL fans don't need to sit in a grass bank to watch a game, so yup - we do!
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good point see paul newlove and featherstone too
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| Quote ="thecaptain"I do sympathise with the fans,but lets have a level playing field.celtic cheated,and the consequence should be expulsion/demotion.celtic are in this position through incompitent management supported by red hall.'"
Well as long as they are demoted far enough down as we don`t want them back, for goodness sake one third of the team illegal workers . When I had my own business I was forever geting letters re` making sure who I was employing and was told if I did, a several thousand pound fine would be imposed.
I once had a visit as well telling me it was my responsibility, if they were employed by me.
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| Quote ="chapster"quite fun to play guess the club by reading the posts on here, and then look at the posters header to see if your right.
heres a tip..................fans and club a disgrace, you can narrow it down to a nrl1 side, ground mentioned, its widnes!
support, most of sl
support but want them thrown out and all resulted null and void...bulls
offer of help er...................then again were only on page 8'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"Do you mean Championship and Championship 1
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ok i apologise for making light of the situation!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Rubbish.'"
So you see this similar to some resturant in the smoke employing a dodgy waiter ?
You seriously think that the club and the RFL have not been involved in what went into the Visa applications especially given the problems that were apparent back in January |
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| Quote ="Starbug"So you see this similar to some resturant in the smoke employing a dodgy waiter ?
You seriously think that the club and the RFL have not been involved in what went into the Visa applications especially given the problems that were apparent back in January'"
what?????
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Wouldnt count on Ppl forgetting it chemic lol .....its just that this is just one more thing, wether it be the club or wether it be the individual players its the way ppl in charge go about things
www.crusadersrfl.com/newsstory16.htm
read the statement its a bloody joke ...this is sort of stuff that happens The players have been great the coachin staff have been great but it seems behind the scenes hasnt been great ...and we have gone from a great family orientatd club to bit of a joke in few months'"
OMG how bad is that statement? 
In my mind it's like rubbing salt in the wounds by saying 'Yeah they were good whilst they were here but now they've been found out, we'll just shove some of the kids in who haven't been able to get a game for love nor money and we'll crack like nothing's happened'!!
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Wouldnt count on Ppl forgetting it chemic lol .....its just that this is just one more thing, wether it be the club or wether it be the individual players its the way ppl in charge go about things
www.crusadersrfl.com/newsstory16.htm
read the statement its a bloody joke ...this is sort of stuff that happens The players have been great the coachin staff have been great but it seems behind the scenes hasnt been great ...and we have gone from a great family orientatd club to bit of a joke in few months'"
OMG how bad is that statement?
In my mind it's like rubbing salt in the wounds by saying 'Yeah they were good whilst they were here but now they've been found out, we'll just shove some of the kids in who haven't been able to get a game for love nor money and we'll crack like nothing's happened'!!
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I can't help but feel sorry for the Crusaders' fans in all this. Think of the season ticket holders who've paid good money and are now facing the prospect of watching their decimated side get really badly beaten for the rest of the season. I honestly believe we could see the first Super League 100 point beating being dished out, which is not good for promoting the game in Wales.
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What the effing HELL have our "management" done now?
It's been a hell of a year trying to stay behind our team and now the heart is being ripped out of it because of management balls ups.
I had already decided I supported the TEAM not the CLUB as a result of the breaking of promises regarding playing in Bridgend and now half of our first team players and MOST of our longest served players are being kicked out of the country.
This is an effing JOKE!
It's hard enough getting the anti-expansion flat-cappers to take us seriously as it is!
They must be expressing their glee through the medium of one handed typing (if you know what I mean) as we speak!
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maybee the club hasnt been indicated yet as to this sorry mess but if u read the Official Club statement its a total loads of bollox ...to try and put a positive spin on this massive cock up is beyond all us CC fans ....Always we are treated like mushrooms (kept in dark and fed S**T ) Summat major has to happen now the club wether instigated or not is fast becoming a joke . What with the newport move, the proposed change of name and badge ,its laughable......oh and by the way chaps not all crusaders fans are Welsh 
