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| Whether folk like it or not, Celtic Crusaders are in Super League for another two and a half seasons. So for that time it would be more helpful for all concerned if posters here were to spend time putting forward suggestions and ideas that might help them develop their club and the game generally in South Wales.
After that it would be more appropriate to criticize them for what they might have done wrong while continuing to applaud them for what they have done right.
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| Glee.
My club are doing quite well given that ambitions to play in SL next season have now been removed by the rfl and that their future will be decided by men in suits rather than on the field at 3 yearly intervals!
As for developing the game in S Wales?? I don't have a problem with that either. Never have had.
The franchising system, the abolition of P+R. The favourable quota dispensation given towards the club - I do have a problem with and as such have developed absolute indiference to the club.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Glee.
My club are doing quite well given that ambitions to play in SL next season have now been removed by the rfl and that their future will be decided by men in suits rather than on the field at 3 yearly intervals!
As for developing the game in S Wales?? I don't have a problem with that either. Never have had.
The franchising system, the abolition of P+R. The favourable quota dispensation given towards the club - I do have a problem with and as such have developed absolute indiference to the club.'"
I have every sympathy with you, RFF. But the decision has been made, for better or worse, to introduce the licence system. For whatever reason, the RFL saw fit to hand out one of those precious licences to the CC.
Constantly coming on this board and demanding that the Celtic fan's justify their inclusion will not help Fetherstone Rovers. These people are fan's of this club and are obviously very happy at being in SL. They are not responsible for the situation and can do nothing about it. So it is a totally pointless exercise.
I had my say on the subject before the announcements last July, and then immediately after. I see little to be gained by carrying it on and now wish Celtic Crusaders and their fans luck. I hope it works down there.
I also hope the RFL ditch the licence system, reintroduces P&R and we see Fev in SL one day soon. I really wish the RFL were honest with us all and just come out and told us what they were upto instead of insulting our intelligence with the ridiculous charade that was the licence system. But these thoughts have had no relevance on these boards since last July and cannot change what happened.
I would suggest that e-mailing the RFL would be a better way of getting these issues off your chest, not that that would do any good either, but at least they are the ones responsible and the ones who should be answering the question raised in this thread.
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| Your problem is your cr@ppy aussies. Not a patch on Wig@n's or Stains or Warrington or Dull or DullKR or Catalans etc. You need better aussies let's face it. Soon as you do the sky's the limit.
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| Quote ="Pepe"I have every sympathy with you, RFF. But the decision has been made, for better or worse, to introduce the licence system. For whatever reason, the RFL saw fit to hand out one of those precious licences to the CC.
Constantly coming on this board and demanding that the Celtic fan's justify their inclusion will not help Fetherstone Rovers. These people are fan's of this club and are obviously very happy at being in SL. They are not responsible for the situation and can do nothing about it. So it is a totally pointless exercise.
I had my say on the subject before the announcements last July, and then immediately after. I see little to be gained by carrying it on and now wish Celtic Crusaders and their fans luck. I hope it works down there.
I also hope the RFL ditch the licence system, reintroduces P&R and we see Fev in SL one day soon. I really wish the RFL were honest with us all and just come out and told us what they were upto instead of insulting our intelligence with the ridiculous charade that was the licence system. But these thoughts have had no relevance on these boards since last July and cannot change what happened.
I would suggest that e-mailing the RFL would be a better way of getting these issues off your chest, not that that would do any good either, but at least they are the ones responsible and the ones who should be answering the question raised in this thread.'"
Good post, and very relevant. However, if the NL clubs have been passed over for a new club, and the performances on and off the field of that new club aren't being delivered, surely fans, club officials have the right to ask the question??
When GanEden so ineloquently put his lead post to this thread and asked "where has all the hype gone", it gave me a notion to enquire whether his question was valid, which I believe it is.
Who better to explain than fans of that club. The RFL (who are the one I level my anger at) certainly won't other than to trot out the same old PR. I know, I'm a pain in the @rse with them as well!!!
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| I've had my blast. Time to retreat back into my shell I think until it's time to vent my spleen again!
Until then
Ta ta!!
Keep smiling
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"I've had my blast. Time to retreat back into my shell I think until it's time to vent my spleen again!
Until then
Ta ta!!
Keep smiling
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We're smiling, don't worry.
We have time to get it right and will do.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Glee.
as such have developed absolute indiference to the club.'"
yeah thats what comes shining though.
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| Quote ="Pepe"I have every sympathy with you, RFF. But the decision has been made, for better or worse, to introduce the licence system. For whatever reason, the RFL saw fit to hand out one of those precious licences to the CC.
Constantly coming on this board and demanding that the Celtic fan's justify their inclusion will not help Fetherstone Rovers. These people are fan's of this club and are obviously very happy at being in SL. They are not responsible for the situation and can do nothing about it. So it is a totally pointless exercise.
I had my say on the subject before the announcements last July, and then immediately after. I see little to be gained by carrying it on and now wish Celtic Crusaders and their fans luck. I hope it works down there.
I also hope the RFL ditch the licence system, reintroduces P&R and we see Fev in SL one day soon. I really wish the RFL were honest with us all and just come out and told us what they were upto instead of insulting our intelligence with the ridiculous charade that was the licence system. But these thoughts have had no relevance on these boards since last July and cannot change what happened.
I would suggest that e-mailing the RFL would be a better way of getting these issues off your chest, not that that would do any good either, but at least they are the ones responsible and the ones who should be answering the question raised in this thread.'"
Are you you both stupid or ignorant or both? We only have the franchise cause we rightfully deserved it and to see IF it will develop in Wales.
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| oops sorry pepe didnt read the rest my bad. But i still stand to what i say.
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| Yeh and Pepe I apolagize for all the commotion on your forum it was only a bit of banter but didn't realise how serious you took it. Good luck to your season and I hope we play you next year in the challenge cup
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| Pepe i for one am sorry widness are not in SL i was at bellevue in 05 when you turned over the wildcats in that televised game. you were very entertaining to watch.
yes its true we are here to stay so lets move along. but reverting to my usual cynical motion i can see the conspiracy in action. RFL have wanted to expand into the valleys. RU attendences are on the fall and the WRU have made a mess of the regional system. they needed to jump in now to ever have any chance of getting a foothold before faggot ball takes over.
i find it just a little too convienient that the license system is introduced just as crusaders arrive near the top of NL1. however they knew full well if cru went up they'd go straight down as is being shown this season. that would lead to needless spending to buy in playes and cause financial problems in the future.
i see the license system last long enough for us to be able to maintain our SL spot. call me a cynic but i'll put £5 on the RFL coming out and saying the license system has failed/not turned out as planned etc when the crusaders are able to maintain their spot.
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"Pepe i for one am sorry widness are not in SL i was at bellevue in 05 when you turned over the wildcats in that televised game. you were very entertaining to watch.
yes its true we are here to stay so lets move along. but reverting to my usual cynical motion i can see the conspiracy in action. RFL have wanted to expand into the valleys. RU attendences are on the fall and the WRU have made a mess of the regional system. they needed to jump in now to ever have any chance of getting a foothold before faggot ball takes over.
i find it just a little too convienient that the license system is introduced just as crusaders arrive near the top of NL1. however they knew full well if cru went up they'd go straight down as is being shown this season. that would lead to needless spending to buy in playes and cause financial problems in the future.
i see the license system last long enough for us to be able to maintain our SL spot. call me a cynic but i'll put £5 on the RFL coming out and saying the license system has failed/not turned out as planned etc when the crusaders are able to maintain their spot.'"
The franchise system will be with us for a long time now , once Widnes go up no other club will be anywhere near making the jump , the gap is already too big and will only get bigger
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| we'll see, to be honest if it stays i'll expect the next thing to be a US style draft. local clubs will bring on their academy teams as normal and at the end of the their u20 season or earlier if they choose they'll be put in to a draft and the clubs will pick them just like the NFL.
perhaps moving the u20 towards a college or uni setting supported by the club so the lads can study sports or something along with rugby so at least they can get some quals incase injury etc stops their career
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"we'll see, to be honest if it stays i'll expect the next thing to be a US style draft. local clubs will bring on their academy teams as normal and at the end of the their u20 season or earlier if they choose they'll be put in to a draft and the clubs will pick them just like the NFL.
perhaps moving the u20 towards a college or uni setting supported by the club so the lads can study sports or something along with rugby so at least they can get some quals incase injury etc stops their career'"
Not possible in this country
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| of course its possible it just means effort planning and upsetting the status quo.
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"of course its possible it just means effort planning and upsetting the status quo.'"
Leave Parfitt and Rossi alone it wasn't their idea to bring in franchises
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"we'll see, to be honest if it stays i'll expect the next thing to be a US style draft. local clubs will bring on their academy teams as normal and at the end of the their u20 season or earlier if they choose they'll be put in to a draft and the clubs will pick them just like the NFL.
perhaps moving the u20 towards a college or uni setting supported by the club so the lads can study sports or something along with rugby so at least they can get some quals incase injury etc stops their career'"
Only if the lower clubs have acadamy or reserve teams.
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| Quote ="glee"Whether folk like it or not, Celtic Crusaders are in Super League for another two and a half seasons. So for that time it would be more helpful for all concerned if posters here were to spend time putting forward suggestions and ideas that might help them develop their club and the game generally in South Wales.
After that it would be more appropriate to criticize them for what they might have done wrong while continuing to applaud them for what they have done right.'"
I thought the RFL also stated that a club could be relegated if they did not come "UP TO SCRATCH"?? In one of the earlier statements from Nige. at Red Hall.
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| Quote ="Cassandra"I thought the RFL also stated that a club could be relegated if they did not come "UP TO SCRATCH"?? In one of the earlier statements from Nige. at Red Hall.'"
I think it is pretty safe to say we will be here for the three years.
Let's hope so anyway.
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"I think it is pretty safe to say we will be here for the three years.
Let's hope so anyway.'"
I hope you're right. But knowing the RFL anything is possible.
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| yeh and the WRU.
I know it has NO relation to this topic what so ever but i went to school today when we had a day off.
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| Quote ="Cassandra"I hope you're right. But knowing the RFL anything is possible.'" oh absolutely Casandra!
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| So will you next home crowd actually be more than 2857 or is that it then??
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| Quote ="GanEden"So will you next home crowd actually be more than 2857 or is that it then??'"
exactly 2856 you muppet.
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