Because they've already formed a new company W Crusaders Ltd and have obviously had the nod that they will be in SL next year.

will the tax man allow this if he doesn't get his money ?
or does it not work like that?

Taxman can't stop it. They are two entirely different companies and the directors of the new company are not directors of the old one. Legally its 2 people unconnected with the old business starting up a new one and the old company's debts are nothing to do with them. The morals of it are of course a different matter but legally they're doing nothing wrong.

I think this is why they want to cleat HMRC debt first before admin to save any further issues with them.

Usually the HMRC are the ones who dont get paid , dont forget the money they collect is actually ours

Who is actually signing these players is it the old company or the new one ? If its the W crusaders, how can they sign and register players when they are not in the league YET !

lf these stories in the media are not true,?, l would expect the Crusaders to take legal action. That should get them a few bob

they are true sky sports news says so

And if it's not the new company, do you have a question? What if all these deals were actually agreed months ago with the old (existing) company? We can all make up 'what if' scenarios for Crusaders and every other club. It ain't hard and it certainly ain't clever.

I've got one ......... 'What if' we just wait and see what happens rather than pretend we know what has happened and will happen? Then you can react accordingly, depending upon your point of view as to the rights and wrongs of it all.

You are the one who has introduced the 'what if ' theme . I asked a question as to the signings and their origins. If you want to read more than that into it, you don't have to ask 'what if ', because in your own mind you already know the answer.

Looks like the 'what if's ' are over you are in administration, on your club web site now.

Cru in Administration according to Sky sports news


Let's see what happens now.

Nothing will happen now because its Crusaders, they will be allowed to carry on as normal and will get a franchise next time round. IT'S A DISGRACE.

nowt will happen

new name WELSH CRUSADERS and a 6 point deduction for next season

Yup - almost certain - tho only arguing point being the number of points to be deducted - no relegation therefore no problem!

Hopefully this will give the club a chance to get off on an even footing next season instead of being saddled by historic debts from the previous owners' disasterous financial management, the club deserves that much after a successful first year in Wrexham. Fingers crossed.

6 point deduction ? don't think so, the RFL will more likely give them a 6 point bonus start.

This is true, did us wonders but without sl! And with respect that 'old debt' was took on by current owners and was it not also accrued in getting the club it's SL franchise in the first place?

Samuel is a slime ball who basically makes money by giving people dreams and then snatching them away. The RFL should never of got into bed with him and have unfortunately paid the price!

They will if your new ground is not built in time.

Even Footing? Thats a classic. If everything was based on an even footing then you wouldn't be anywhere near super league and also you wouldn't be able to have a team full of aussies. The fact that the club is based in Wales is the only reason why you are even in super league.

Are the RFL going to do the same to you lot as they have to Blackpool? Are they chuff.

Bring back promotion and relgation and let clubs earn there right to be in super league.

Good luck Crusaders from A Warrington fan. Wouldn't pay too much notice to people who would rather have Hunslet etc in because of tradition. In my opinion, Wakefield, Castleford and Featherstone should all be forced to merge into one team. This in effect giving them (hopefully) An average gate of 8000 apx. By doing this, they can a; stop moaning about Crusaders and b; free up a super league place for another team. Ie Widnes, Barrow or even a local womens team from there area. Anything to stop there moaning.

Talk crap mate, go merge with saints, widnes, wigan, crosaders

Spot on Bazzo, why not go merge both Hull sides too & fax & Hudds.

because both hull sides get good crowds and arent in danger of the drop and wont finish bottom and second bottom this year

I agree with you on your points but it hardly good for expansion of the game!

IMO the RFL needs to make its mind up,

We either go with the model they have now, expansion, bringing through home grown youth so we can compete with Aus & NZ, creating better stadia etc but make sure it is a level playing field, because it currently isn't.

Or back to P&R which is a fairer system, that all other sports use, which in effect will not achieve the gains the RFL are chasing via the existing model.

I am in favour of the model in use at present even though my club has been dumped on, along with other Champ clubs, as I want to see our sport spread and improve, but the system is flawed as the RFL will break their own rules to keep expansion clubs going.

Come on RFL make up your minds you can't have it both ways, you are turing our sport into a joke.