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| Its a shame that you Welsh fans are constantly let down, whether it be from Celtic Warriors or whats happening now.
The plus to this is that more Welsh lads can get into the team for the remaining games, which is the way it should be.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You know, people like you are pathetic.
You should be sympathising with the fans, not one of whom is to blame for this shambles, not coming on here with your childish, bitter whinging. Parochial and bitter and embarrassing.'"
Because he speaks the truth? Celtic should resign from the league along with Richard Lewis. Joke!
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| Quote ="nash crusader"icon_surprised.gifops:
.......bleedin shocking dunno what the bloody hell is goin on ..we have gone from a well run family orientated club to a bloody laughin stock in a few months ....only thing i can say is that all the six were recruited by the previous admin ...but god only knows how the bloody hell someone dint spot this balls up when first happened ..........jeeze how the hell are we gunna have people take us serious now eh'"
The problem is Nash, you have got too involved in an incompetent organisation which is run by somebody who, as has been intimated earlier, has his own interests at the forefront of everything he does.
I sincerely hope your club gets over this as we aren't all flatcappers in Widnes and the more widespread RL is the better the game will be. Your club was pushed to run before it could walk under poor guidance.
Keep going for the sake of the game.
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| bollox to everyone feeling sorry for Celtic if it was Wigan or Saints these boards would implode, its embarrassing that the club have let this happen and yet more negative press for our great game
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You know, people like you are pathetic.
You should be sympathising with the fans, not one of whom is to blame for this shambles, not coming on here with your childish, bitter whinging. Parochial and bitter and embarrassing.'"
Oh aye, and who made you the big chief telling people what they should or shouldn't be doing????
Whether I have sympathy for anyone, or if I choose to share it I will. I don't need anyone telling me how I should feel about a team that has been given a licence when clearly not ready for SL or aguably deservring of a licence, and ring fenced so that a team from the NL better placed and equipt to bring more to SL that celtic can at the mo, can't replace them no matter how they do on or off the field.
Barmy!!
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| Quote ="nash crusader"icon_surprised.gifops:
.......bleedin shocking dunno what the bloody hell is goin on ..we have gone from a well run family orientated club to a bloody laughin stock in a few months ....only thing i can say is that all the six were recruited by the previous admin ...but god only knows how the bloody hell someone dint spot this balls up when first happened ..........jeeze how the hell are we gunna have people take us serious now eh'"
Afternoon matey
FWIW I think it's a damned shame what's happened and hope the club aren't going to be completely crucified for this. Sadly, you can expect abuse from the small-minded flatcappers, I just hope you realise that proper fans of TGG (i.e. game first club second, not the other way round like the flatcappers) will still support the Welsh venture and not want it to die because of this.
From a fellow pariah (aka a Wigan fan), welcome to the club
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| Quote ="Redchemic"The problem is Nash, you have got too involved in an incompetent organisation which is run by somebody who, as has been intimated earlier, has his own interests at the forefront of everything he does.
I sincerely hope your club gets over this as we aren't all flatcappers in Widnes and the more widespread RL is the better the game will be. Your club was pushed to run before it could walk under poor guidance.
Keep going for the sake of the game.'"
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| That's what's great about the RL family. Most of the stuff on this thread is smug-I-told-you-so-flat-capper type speak. Unless of course we want the game here to revert to semi-pro, and Oz and NZ be the only 2 teams that can beat each other.
Trying to give this game a bigger profile is hard enough. Celtic have battled hard to try and do it, and maybe they were not ready for SL. But does the knife have to go in and twist to much right now.
The club have maybe wronged here, but how has it taken 3 years in some cases to find this out. The immigration people are well out of order, allowing it to take this long.
But at the end of the day, the fans and the game in Wales are the losers, and I believe the game in general in Europe is too.
Bringing young kids in may look good on paper, but if they aren't ready, it's futile. However if there is enough experience around to get those kids thro', then it may prove to be very interesting.
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| Didnt immigration rules change in Nov 2008?
Thus resulting in your current predicament, meaning that when these guys came over their visas were all in order. Is it a fact that these new rules applied retrospectively have resulted in this almighty b***s up we are currently witnessing?
Can any one in the know shed some light on this.
Chin up Celtic fans!
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| Quote ="Pilchard"
The club have maybe wronged here,
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aye, and so were all the NL clubs that played against them last year by a club fielding a team containing illegal immigrants!!
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"aye, and so were all the NL clubs that played against them last year by a club fielding a team containing illegal immigrants!!'"
Read the previous post to yours. That may be significant.
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| Pilchard me old chum how dare you bring logic and reason in to the narrow minded and ignorant flat cappers witch hunt.
p.s cheers for the pint on sunday good to see you again will repay you next year when your down
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| Quote ="Pilchard"Read the previous post to yours. That may be significant.'"
They have been playing over here on student visa's getting paid by the clubs chairman in clear contravention of the salary cap rules for the 2 previous years
In those 2 years several other clubs have been affected adversly because of this
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"bollox to everyone feeling sorry for Celtic if it was Wigan or Saints these boards would implode, [uits embarrassing that the club have let this happen [/uand yet more negative press for our great game
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what like your beloved wigan purposly over spending on the salary cap year in year out knowing that the fine will come into play next season?
now thats an emabarassment...also how about wigan spending ludicrous amounts of cash on australian has beens whilst releasing top young players such as briscoe,robinson etc etc etc...another embarrasment in my eyes..
i for one wouldt feel sorry for the cherry and whites if this was to happen to them, infact id love it..
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You know, people like you are pathetic.
You should be sympathising with the fans, not one of whom is to blame for this shambles, not coming on here with your childish, bitter whinging. Parochial and bitter and embarrassing.'"
I do sympathise with the fans,but lets have a level playing field.celtic cheated,and the consequence should be expulsion/demotion.celtic are in this position through incompitent management supported by red hall.
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| Quote ="thecaptain"I do sympathise with the fans,but lets have a level playing field.celtic [ucheated[/u,and the consequence should be expulsion/demotion.celtic are in this position through incompitent management supported by red hall.'"
breaking the salary cap. wigan saints have consistantly broke it amongst others...does that mean they should be demoted??
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| Quote ="thecaptain"I do sympathise with the fans,but lets have a level playing field.celtic cheated,and the consequence should be expulsion/demotion.celtic are in this position through incompitent management supported by red hall.'"
Either that or a clear indication of how expansion clubs will operate under different rules at all levels from now on
Celtic are bottom of SL , they have had little effect on where other clubs in SL are going to finish this year
For the last 2 years though they have had a massive effect on the clubs they have played
That must never be allowed to happen again
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| I see the Fev, Widnes & Leigh Flatcappers are jumping on the Bandwagon again. Take a step back and consider that the paperwork was incorrect.
Come on get real - the RFL dont go over past Immigration papers when they are trying to sort out the club. Give them a break.
CC are not cheats - these players have been with them since the start.
Compare what is happening with the Blood capsule situation in RU =- now THAT is cheating.
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| Absolutely gutted, thanks for all the support folks and as for all the 'hang 'em high' brigade good luck in whatever your team does and hope that you'll get a bit more sympathy as a fan than we'll get if your team ever fall foul of the rules.
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| Quote ="thecaptain"I do sympathise with the fans,but lets have a level playing field.celtic cheated,and the consequence should be expulsion/demotion.celtic are in this position through incompitent management supported by red hall.'"
What bollox.
Read the BBC story again. You will notice that it is the PLAYERS who are being held responsible. As yet, no decision has been made by the Borders Agency as to whether the club knowingly employed illegal immigrants. The club could be entirely innocent in all of this yet with the childish rantings of idiot fans from other clubs anyone would think the owner and staff had committed mass murder.
I haven't witnessed such a load of childish, pathetic rubbish since I was a kid on the school playground. You lot from other clubs, [iyou[/i are the embarrassment to rugby league.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"breaking the salary cap. wigan saints have consistantly broke it amongst others...does that mean they should be demoted??'"
I'm pretty sure that Hull got done once
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| Quote ="Traffic"Absolutely gutted, thanks for all the support folks and as for all the 'hang 'em high' brigade good luck in whatever your team does and hope that you'll get a bit more sympathy as a fan than we'll get if your team ever fall foul of the rules.'"
Your club hasn't yet fallen foul of anything. It's the players who have made a mistake so far. Hopefully, the Borders Agency won't find anything that can be interpreted as the club knowingly employing illegal immigrants. If they cannot prove that then the club is home free.
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| Quote ="WigansForeignLegion"Afternoon matey
FWIW I think it's a damned shame what's happened and hope the club aren't going to be completely crucified for this. Sadly, you can expect abuse from the small-minded flatcappers, I just hope you realise that proper fans of TGG (i.e. game first club second, not the other way round like the flatcappers) will still support the Welsh venture and not want it to die because of this.
From a fellow pariah (aka a Wigan fan), welcome to the club
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Thanks for that.
As I said on another thread if the club went under I would still be a big fan of rugby league if we do not have a club to support. I don't think many people who are coming on here having a go could say the same.
It is posts like this that make all the difference in times like this so thanks again.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"What bollox.
Read the BBC story again. You will notice that it is the PLAYERS who are being held responsible. As yet, no decision has been made by the Borders Agency as to whether the club knowingly employed illegal immigrants. The club could be entirely innocent in all of this yet with the childish rantings of idiot fans from other clubs anyone would think the owner and staff had committed mass murder.
I haven't witnessed such a load of childish, pathetic rubbish since I was a kid on the school playground. You lot from other clubs, [iyou[/i are the embarrassment to rugby league.'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"Either that or a clear indication of how expansion clubs will operate under different rules at all levels from now on
Celtic are bottom of SL , they have had little effect on where other clubs in SL are going to finish this year
For the last 2 years though they have had a massive effect on the clubs they have played
That must never be allowed to happen again'"
Maybe on the Bulls. (Can we have 2 points back please? )
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