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| Quote ="welshnutteruk"YES not be finished read the supporters meeting with LS it wont even be started big Differents Between FINISHED AND STARTED
How do YOU KNOW HOW MANY GAMES THEY HAVE WATCHED AT THE BREWERY FIELD
IT was a toss up of have a weekend in bridgend or wembley you now know the answer to that
any way last post'"
You didn't say finished in the original post did you.
I doubt we'll be the only ones with no ground started when the next 3 year Super League licences are up for grabs so there goes the argument once more.
Haven't you got better things to do....like go on the Leeds site and ask them to stop in a pub in Bridgend when the game is on. Oh and by the way, where is the Linttern Tree?
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"So our ground will not be built by the end of the three years so we won't get a licence.
You can add to that list the Saints, Cas, Wakefield, Salford. They all have new grounds in the pipeline that will not be finished.
Not going to be much of a Super League is it going on your judgement?'"
Well, for one, Saints' playing record and youth development will keep then safe come what may. But even so...
...roll on Halifax, Widnes, Leigh, Tolouse Olympique and Whitehaven. Three heartland clubs with decent grounds, a second international club and a Cumbrian franchise (or pick your own alternatives, if yo don't like mine). I think SL would survive. I'm pretty sure, too, so would Cas, Saints, Wakefield and Salford.
What about Crusaders?
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| We'll be alright. Don't you worry about us and get your own house in order ready for it.
I am confident we can get another one and there is a lot to be done and rugby to be played in between.
We got virtually 3,000 home fans for our last home game against a team many hadn't heard of and with us being bottom of the league. I think we can push on from here.
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| Hope you're right Crucru.... I know we've not always seen eye-to-eye, but I do actually think we want broadly the same things..
...the question still remains, though, do you think CC could survive if they had to take a spell back in the national leagues? 3000 fans + a Championship Colts team suggests you could...
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| Quote ="Wembley71"Hope you're right Crucru.... I know we've not always seen eye-to-eye, but I do actually think we want broadly the same things..
...the question still remains, though, do you think CC could survive if they had to take a spell back in the national leagues? 3000 fans + a Championship Colts team suggests you could...'"
Yes but would the fans take the drop back down, I doubt it.
If we did drop down and wanted to be realistic about survival we would have to bring the local lads from the reserve set up and see how they do. That would be the only way of surviving, in my opinion.
I am confident we can make a go of it and we have a few aces in the pack as a few grounds of union clubs have contacted Crusaders to play games their. That is the advantage over other clubs as our eggs are not all in one basket. We have a new stadium in the pipeline but as you have been pointing out there is a ground at Cardiff Arms Park, Newport, Swansea Llanelli etc etc that are just the right size and would suit us perfectly. If, for example your Castleford or Wakefield go back to the rfl when the franchises are up again I don't think they have much going for them outside of the new grounds. If they don't happen they have no other option or very limited at least. With Crusaders we have a safety net of grounds that would cry out for our team to play there if the Crusaders approached them.
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| celtic 6 - 50 Wakey
bad to worse
bad plaing squad, bad coach and blinkered fans. it can't get any worse at the moment
Personally, I have had it with this team, I am going back to RU next season
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| To be honest good riddance to bad rubbish.
Teams need fans when they're at their lowest ebb.
Now enjoy your kick and clap.
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| Quote ="nc"celtic 6 - 50 Wakey
bad to worse
bad plaing squad, bad coach and blinkered fans. it can't get any worse at the moment
Personally, I have had it with this team, I am going back to RU next season'" so what was the crowd yeasterday?
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"hmmmm!'"
You never stop do you?
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"No!!'"
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| Quote ="nc"celtic 6 - 50 Wakey
bad to worse
bad plaing squad, bad coach and blinkered fans. it can't get any worse at the moment
Personally, I have had it with this team, I am going back to RU next season'"
Your were never going to be world beaters in your fitst season you need time to buil a side and get used to super league. Stick by your club and it will be worth it.
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Pathetic.'" if you like!
But I haven't come on here to abuse anyone - unlike your response.
I merely asked a question. As I said on previous threads, the microscope is on the celtic club - rightly or wrongly.
I've been advised on here just to accept it - move on - put up with it - it's here to stay etc re the franchising system and the clubs in it!
Likewise, you may well have to accept that there are some of us who are always likely to closely monitor the success of the initiative!
But I won't resort to abuse. But if it makes you feel better, crack on!
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| Quote ="nc"celtic 6 - 50 Wakey
bad to worse
bad plaing squad, bad coach and blinkered fans. it can't get any worse at the moment
Personally, I have had it with this team, I am going back to RU next season'"
You saying you've had it is our best result of the year!! Given that all you seem to spout is negativity about the club, players, supporters and anything related to the Crusaders so trot on....
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"if you like!
But I haven't come on here to abuse anyone - unlike your response.
I merely asked a question. As I said on previous threads, the microscope is on the celtic club - rightly or wrongly.
I've been advised on here just to accept it - move on - put up with it - it's here to stay etc re the franchising system and the clubs in it!
Likewise, you may well have to accept that there are some of us who are always likely to closely monitor the success of the initiative!
But I won't resort to abuse. But if it makes you feel better, crack on!'"
How is saying bringing up attendance figures and picking points to knock our inclusion in Super League is pathetic abusing someone?
It is.
You can monitor it all you like. It's just boring you have to post on here every time you think of it. Post on the Widnes thread and have a good moan there as it really is wasted here.
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| Fev fan if you don't like us "abusing" you then stop trolling our forums. Ok?
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"How is saying bringing up attendance figures and picking points to knock our inclusion in Super League is pathetic abusing someone?'"
Don't let the negators get to you. There are lots of RL fans out there rooting for you and willing Celtic to succeed, however difficult things look just now. I was sad you had such a bad loss and at home too. Your lads must be well down on confidence and inspiration just now. I hope something happens to change that for the better.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Don't let the negators get to you. There are lots of RL fans out there rooting for you and willing Celtic to succeed, however difficult things look just now. I was sad you had such a bad loss and at home too. Your lads must be well down on confidence and inspiration just now. I hope something happens to change that for the better.'"
Yes, hopefully we'll get a reaction next week at bat quins.
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Yes, hopefully we'll get a reaction next week at bat quins.'"
Bat Quins, maybe, but beat quins? Never
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| Saturday was just plain bad and I had been expecting us to get walloped by someone sometime or other. However the bigger picture is not in our current results.
The key to the success of this club is for the team and supporters to stay patient and loyal to what we are trying to achieve here, namely an established and sustainable SL side in South Wales.
We do this by turning up week after week , giving our support to the players and the team no matter what. They don't play badly on purpose, they don't need to hear us giving them abuse (as much as I and others really wanted to last Saturday).
We are not a million miles away from being a really competitvie side in this league, the squad that we have had largely remained with us throughout NL1 & 2 and now its starting to show to a certain extent.
With all due respect to Fev and Widnes , they would get hammered even worse then we have with the squad's they have this season, the step up is bigger than many thought here.
Our crowds are not bad that bad, when you think only Leeds,Hull and St Helens get crowds over 10K and they have much larger catchment areas than ourselves and our average is still better than Harlequins who have been going very well this season.
We have a good hardcore fanbase down here who will not let this club fail.
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| Quote ="cardiffcrusaderrob"
Our crowds are not bad that bad, when you think only Leeds,Hull and St Helens get crowds over 10K and they have much larger catchment areas than ourselves and our average is still better than Harlequins who have been going very well this season.
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I agree with most of what you wrote, but I do reckon that South Wales is a bigger catchment area than Leeds or Sintellens - maybe not Hull if you measure it in potential rugby players.
You're the new team, so will have a few extra away fans for this reason. Next year you should expect less away fans (especially since you'll start winning more games) so getting the same numbers through the doors would be an acheivement.
In the next two years the main focus is gates and geting some of your young WELSH players into the squad. Don't get uptight about comments that you're a squad full of ozzies even after you've developed your own players, we get that from the BBC pundits.
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"I agree with most of what you wrote, but I do reckon that South Wales is a bigger catchment area than Leeds or Sintellens - maybe not Hull if you measure it in potential rugby players.
You're the new team, so will have a few extra away fans for this reason. Next year you should expect less away fans (especially since you'll start winning more games) so getting the same numbers through the doors would be an acheivement.
In the next two years the main focus is gates and geting some of your young WELSH players into the squad. Don't get uptight about comments that you're a squad full of ozzies even after you've developed your own players, we get that from the BBC pundits.'"
No it isn't , the main focus is winning some games and then getting more people to attend
Unless they turn it around on the pitch , winning at least a third of their home games they are unlikely to build any kind of home support
Who is playing for them is irrelivant , better ateam full of aussies competing than a team full of locals getting hammered
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