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| Good luck next season fellas. Really hope RL can work down there.
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| Quote ="Grendel"Why? We beat them both in NL1.
And don't give me that illegal player knackers.
They were "illegal" in 2007 and have been disproportionately punished for that.
In 2008, when we beat BOTH Widnes and Halifax in the league, they were legal.'"
You wouldn't have beaten anyone in NL1 without those illegal players. You wouldn't even have been in NL1 without those players.
Bragging about any victory in NL1 and NL2 is a bit of a cheek to be honest.
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| Pepe,
You can't know what we'd have won without those players who made an admin error.
And it's quite clear they were only "illegal" in 2007.
In the 2008 season their visas were in order so were "legal" when we beat you 3 times in the same season.
That UKBA decided to disproportionately punish them for this 2 years later does not detract from the fact that they were "legal" in 2008 and 2009.
Still, can't expect an unbiased opinion from a Widnes whiner eh?
Tell you what, go get your mates to come troll this thread for a few more days. Since Leigh went down, we've missed Starbug so there is an opening for a new troll.
Auditions below please:
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| Quote ="Grendel"Pepe,
You can't know what we'd have won without those players who made an admin error.
And it's quite clear they were only "illegal" in 2007.
In the 2008 season their visas were in order so were "legal" when we beat you 3 times in the same season.
That UKBA decided to disproportionately punish them for this 2 years later does not detract from the fact that they were "legal" in 2008 and 2009.
Still, can't expect an unbiased opinion from a Widnes whiner eh?
Tell you what, go get your mates to come troll this thread for a few more days. Since Leigh went down, we've missed Starbug so there is an opening for a new troll.
Auditions below please:'"
You can argue until you are blue in the face that 'Visa Gate' was nothing more than an administrative cock-up, and you'll convince no-one that all six players being here illegally was a simple over-sight. Clearly these six players would not have received Visas for 2008 and 2009 had the UKBA been aware, at the time they were granted, that these players had been playing as professionals while using inappropriate visas for the previous two years. Hence, despite having Visas for this season, they were sent home before the season had ended and are now unable to enter Britain for the next 10 years. Any visas they had over the last two years would be void too. In other words they have been here illegally since they started playing for the Crusaders.
Bragging about this period, when your club has brought the game in to disrepute, will just anger all but the most zealous expansionist RL fans. It's best forgotten for you lot, it really is.
I have no wish to be a troll on your board. I actually hope RL becomes popular in Wales and wish the decent Celtic supporters well. I hope you stay in SL and prosper.
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| Quote You can argue until you are blue in the face that 'Visa Gate' was nothing more than an administrative cock-up, and you'll convince no-one that all six players being here illegally was a simple over-sight.'"
Well we'll not convince YOU with written evidence. But whatever we do would be wrong in your eyes.
Quote Bragging about this period, when your club has brought the game in to disrepute, will just anger all but the most zealous expansionist RL fans. It's best forgotten for you lot, it really is. '"
Are you the official spokesman for rugby league fans then? It angers you, and several on your board and a few others who troll here. But my personal experience is that most supporters I have met at games think very differently.
Quote I actually hope RL becomes popular in Wales and wish the decent Celtic supporters well. I hope you stay in SL and prosper.'"
Possibly, I'll offer the benefit of the doubt on that one. But you hide it well sometimes.
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| Quote ="Grendel"Well we'll not convince YOU with written evidence. But whatever we do would be wrong in your eyes.
Are you the official spokesman for rugby league fans then? It angers you, and several on your board and a few others who troll here. But my personal experience is that most supporters I have met at games think very differently.'"
I take it you don't read the RL press?
Quote ="Grendel"Possibly, I'll offer the benefit of the doubt on that one. But you hide it well sometimes.'"
Why the hell would I lie?
I'm an anonymous message board user who'll have no come backs no matter what I write here.
What I said was genuine. RL fans in South Wales must be doing it tough enough without dick heads on these boards slagging them off too.
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| Quote ="Grendel"Well we'll not convince YOU with written evidence. But whatever we do would be wrong in your eyes.
Are you the official spokesman for rugby league fans then? It angers you, and several on your board and a few others who troll here. But my personal experience is that most supporters I have met at games think very differently.
Possibly, I'll offer the benefit of the doubt on that one. But you hide it well sometimes.'"
well said grendel. i'm proud of what those lads achieved for us no matter what our rusted on enemies say. the closeness we have with all the players means more to us then the rest of the crap and nothing from widnes whiners will change that.
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| Just for the record , the players in question were only on valid visa's this [ 2009 season
Between 2005 and nov 2008 the visa's they had were not the correct ones
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| Quote ="Starbug"Just for the record , the players in question were only on valid visa's this [ 2009 season
Between 2005 and nov 2008 the visa's they had were not the correct ones'"
Difficult, as none of them played til 2006.
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| Ah but that was just us "cheating" again sneaking into the country a year early. Dirty DIRTY cheating Welshmen we are!
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| Quote ="ajhcrusader":8qcf5ok3Difficult, as none of them played til 2006.'" , but you are now in SL , should remain in SL , and will eventually become a true SL club with decent local support and a mainly Welsh team
All the best for next season
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| I can't be @rsed arguing this again for the trillionth time.
What I will say though is good morning from the supporters of Super League Celtic Crusaders.
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| It is possible to play in NL2 with PART TIME /SEMI PRO PLAYERS. Are these players in question professional at that time? thats for the RFL and the UKBA to decide.
All that we know for certian is that their visas for the 2008 and 2009 season were VALID AND CORRECT.
Before anyone else makes any spurious accussations , GET THE FACTS RIGHT!
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| Quote ="cardiffcrusaderrob"It is possible to play in NL2 with PART TIME /SEMI PRO PLAYERS. Are these players in question professional at that time? thats for the RFL and the UKBA to decide.
All that we know for certian is that their visas for the 2008 and 2009 season were VALID AND CORRECT.
Before anyone else makes any spurious accussations , GET THE FACTS RIGHT!'"
2009 yes , 2008 no
Most NL 1 / Championship players are part time / semi pro players , ie they get paid to play RL part time , but still have full time occupations
No different to 2000,2001,2002,2003 and so on
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| Quote ="Starbug"
Between 2005 and nov 2008 the visas they had were not the correct ones'"
Apostrophes denote the possessive or missing letters.
However it never denotes the plural.
You should know better, for shame.
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| Quote ="hudd giants"you sould not even be in the league get widnes or halifax in'"
Neither would bring ANYTHING to SL.
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| Starbug,
sorry mate but your figures are not to be relied upon since you earlier claimed the 6's visas were wrong in 2005 when they hadn't even signed for us.
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| Quote ="Grendel"Starbug,
sorry mate but your figures are not to be relied upon since you earlier claimed the 6's visas were wrong in 2005 when they hadn't even signed for us.'"
Stop clutching at straws
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Neither would bring ANYTHING to SL.'"
What do you mean?
Surely their average attendances of 54,238, and their free-flowing brand of rugby, with their loyal (and friendly, open-minded) fans. They'd be a HIT, let em in.
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"Apostrophes denote the possessive or missing letters.
However it never denotes the plural.
You should know better, for shame.'"
Thanks for the english lesson
It's a while since I had one of those
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| I know i will be lambasted for this but what is it with supporters of expansion teams that their point of view is always correct and everyone else is wrong ?
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Yeah I know what you mean. Because "traditional heartlands" fans are always so humble and understanding eh?
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| Quote ="rupert bear"I know i will be lambasted for this but what is it with supporters of expansion teams that their point of view is always correct and everyone else is wrong ?'"
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| Quote ="jannerboyuk"aw bless.'"
Quote Aw bless '"
Used by patronising to55ers pretending to be clever
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