How many games you playing in Wrexham, and which rounds are they? any chance of it being at the beginning at all?

Can't see our game with you lot being at Wrexham to be honest.

It will almost certainly be at Newport.

Yeah defo warrington i reckon. The teams that attracted a 5k plus gate will be at newport. those bigger clubs who didnt attract such a big gate will be in wrexham. I think its is a half decent strategy to take advantage of wrexham's location although the whingers will whinge when our average is increased because of it.
anyway my educated guess will be warrington and bradford.

Wasn't the idea to have it be the Saints or Wire game to allow for ease of travel?

The club, and sky, have made a big mistake there IMO

Yes definitely.

Actually... I change my Decision

I think its a good idea in general now, the day isnt right I understand, but I can see alot of fans travelling over, and saves alot more money for us, as it doesnt mean that we have to stay over in Wales and can be home within 2 hours.

So you move grounds, and your first game is at Wrexham? What is the reason for this?

It looks like half the games will be held in Wrexham this year. I can't see this helping with season ticket sales or building a new supporter base.

In which case, there is just no point in the "new home" in Newport.

Might as well just move to Wrexham lock, stock and barrel and rely on away fans.

Newport Gwent Dragons have a game that day and Sky want to dictate when the Crusaders game gets played.

Always likely to happen once Crusaders moved to a union ground.

why not move to Oldham they don't know where they live either

Does it? Where have you read that?

It seems to be what people on the Crusaders till I die forum are thinking.

The plan was that only one game will be held at Wrexham, one at the Gnoll and one somewhere else IIRC.

Now all games are "venue to be confirmed".

Nobody knows anything more definite than that yet supporters are being urged to buy season tickets.

They sold 250 last year but I doubt they will top that under these circumstances.

'Madness '

1980s North London ska band. Not sure of the relevance here though

None whatsoever

Madness however is the only way to describe a situation where a sports club is operating on a ' venue to be confirmed ' basis for it's home games , especially one that is relatively new , has just moved it's base 20 miles and desperatly needs to build a fan base in the next 3/4 years

When are people going to understand that we are a sport , not a product or a brand , not even a business

This is difficult to say the least for the Crusader fans.I just hope the club are organizing buses for the trip north.

Not ' difficult ' , totally bloody crazy , one game yes , but not the first game of the season and if as has been suggested they are all ' venue to be confirmed ' , you just despair what these people making these decisions are thinking of or being advised by

You're loving it really, aren't you?

Actually no , Last season I genuinely hoped that they would bring in some quality and take a few big scalps , but they decided to give the lads that got them there a shot at it and fair do's to them for doing that , in the end it didn't pay off

So they've got Noble in who should improve things , but he has got a very difficult task

This year they are now playing silly buggers off the pitch



To still be a credible club by july 2011 when the next round of licences are given out they have to start making progress somewhere , either on the pitch league position wise or off the pitch with crowds , or it will look pretty bad if a club is thrown out of SL purely on location , one that is out performing the Crusaders both on and off the pitch , that will do serious damage to the sport and SL if that happens

My posts are more mr Angry than gloating

Easy tiger... note the wink.

And I agree with what you've just posted.

I hope someone somewhere realises that it is almost impossible to travel by public transport to Wrexham from S Wales. At weekends the railway are doing line maintainance at wekends, so if travelling by train you are partly bused and the journey is about 8 hours. Almost as bad by bus , means changing and you may knock off 5 mintes off the train time. Only Monday to Fridays is there good and regular transport, I travel regularly to Bangor on business but never go at weekends.
As a season ticket holder I would like to know why one of our top fixtures is at a ground where it is almost impossible to get to? Why bother buying if other top matches are going to N Wales? Makes nonsense of the clubs board about getting good value by buying a season ticket. Doesn't anyone at the club care?
If this is going to be a regular feature of our fixtures I will return to previously, when I used to travel north monthly to visit friends, and see a game when I was there.

I know the first match is a Friday, but it does mean travelling on Friday lunchtime at the latest to get to the game, anyway why bother when the game is televised?