Gosh. A game with two weeks notice and you're expecting people to travel a thousand miles to get there.


Any club relying on away support to make ends meet has serious underlying issues that are better addressed by looking internally than blaming some people at the other end of the continent from not going to east Hull for a Sunday afternoon out.


Yet again, it's Hull KR fans (not all of them, before anyone shouts at me) obsessed with away support. Why is this?


All that said, it's kind of nice to have a thread like this again. It's like it's 2007 all over again.

Hold on John, 1 alleged Hull KR fan is obsessed with your away support, personally I wouldn't expect many fans to come over to England every other week as I stated above.

Over the years, it's become something of a cliché that there's a fixation on away fans east of the river Hull.
Your rational comments are more than welcome as a counterpoint to that.

I've read some crap in my time but that's up there with the very best (or should that be worst) of them.

Succinct and to the point. Like it

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Flat earthers! Fantastic!!

Only just caught up with this thread... priceless.

Has to be a wind-up.

Many replies but still no solutions on offer.

How are your club and fans contributing financially to SL?

Many clubs have their lowest attendances of their seasons when playing Catalans and London at home. This would not be the case if they were playing Featherstone, Halifax etc. So, how can you contribute more?

To those who have made contributions to this thread already, please don't do it again unless you have answers to the above. Derisory comments and nothing else only tend to confirm that the point I'm making is a valid one.

Average home attendance for Catalans: 8728
Average home attendance for Widnes: 6316
Average home attendance for London: 3044
Average home attendance for Castleford: 7846

Obviously a portion of our home attendance will be traveling fans, however the same can be said for the Widnes, London and Castleford attendance, so the fact that we have between 1 and 5,000 extra (on average) cancels out the lower number of travelling fans.

I offered a solution. You pay for the French fans' air fare and accommodation every two weeks and I'm sure they will be more than happy to visit your club, and every other British club

FWIW I know of at least one plane load from france that went to the Saints game


but though you criticise the Catalans away support which is a valid point the fact is that over the past two seasons Perpignan has seen a huge drop in english away fans - for example,for certain matches this season the travelling support has been negligable ie this season fans from Cas,Salford & Widnes were fairly thin on the ground with about probably 150 from HKR - Wires were fairly well represented in comparison though well down on previous years
Speaking of the l'ocal economy' , the vast majority of travelling fans from england don't actually contribute to the french economy as nowadays they end up flying to spain and staying there cos' it's cheaper than france - you see relatively few english fans in Perpignan nowadays unfortunately

What have the Catalans ever done for us ?

well,ask the RFL, they know it's the best thing they ever did......

Once you've actually identified a problem, then solutions may be forthcoming. Instead of just steamrollering through the myriad responses by simply posing a slightly different question, try taking on board what other people are saying and construct an opinion.

I think I will have a crack at decoding bits...

1. Dragons are still a relatively new club so will need time to build up support. The number of UK based fans is increasing with every match I go to and will continue to grow if we keep playing RL from heaven.

2. The best point raised in this thread is that English based fans have to travel to Perpignan once a season, we have to travel to England every other week. That is worth saying again, and again. Is our OP suggesting French people are richer and can afford to make the journey fortnightly? Could he afford to do that if his side played in the French domestic league and needed to go to Toulouse or Lezignan?

So the crux is... is the OP suggesting Catalans should pay compensation to other clubs for their lack or away support? or is he suggesting the RFL should chuck us out?

What I want to know is what financial issues there are at Hull KR that require a certain number of away fans turning up every other week to cover the shortfall.

I would think what the Catalans bring with regard to TV deals will bring more to Super League than a few fans turning up to East Hull on a wet Sunday afternoon.

My only surprise here is that anyone has taken the OP seriously enough to deem it worthy of a rational reply.

That is also a fair point.

that it is.

Well done Catalans' kids and supporters at Headingley on Friday. Great to see your touring teams enjoying the game and contributing so well to the atmosphere. Kept singing even when the result was in no doubt( and not a hint of the drunkenness and trouble that is so often associated with away supporters from the OP's home town.)

Wow. I missed one of the worst threads of the history during my holidays, simply wow.
And what Hull Kr bring to the SL? We have Hull FC... 
No man, you're really pointless. It's like: Why Africans don't properly eat? They should. Or : Si ils n'ont pas de pain, ils n'ont qu'a manger de la brioche!

When you're a good French who contributes to SL, manual.

-Pay a flight every week. The game is on a sunday and you'll miss the monday at work? It's not important, you contribute to the SL.
-Book a hostel in some superb cities. Who didnt dream to have a night in Hull, Widnes or Wakefield? You only live once!
-Pay your game ticket, the food and extras

And do it 13 times (without the cup and the play offs)

Congrats, YOU ARE A REALLY GOOD FRENCH RUGBY LEAGUE FAN. You don't have a job, but you can spend £150 twice times a month when it's not three times. 

I went to the Saints - Catalans game in Widnes, Leeds Saints at Old Trafford last october, and Saints Catalans in Langtree Park. I missed 3 days of school and spent a lot, I can talk. 

Ps: I've nothing against Hull, Widnes or Wakefield, they just don't make me dream.

I think what seems to have been a Catalans policy of not buying English players has been a mistake.

They would have a much bigger English following if they had consistantly had 5 or 6 English players rather than 5 or 6 from Aus and NZ. It would also help with player networks etc.

A very good response Tom, i think Sunset is being a bit unfair, i bet he probably lives in the North of England, where travel is not much of a problem in terms of distance. I used to live in the North but now live in Dover, im nearer to France than any ground in the North, but i follow my team when i can, for me its a 600 mile drive round trip, so theres the cost of fuel, wear and tear on the car, match tickets, food, overnight hotel stay, so i understand exactley what you are saying and i agree with you.

This is a joke thread, isn't it?