Is it time to go kevvie?
What a house performance.

Thats it mate, i was sat in the stands at half time thinking "he needs to go now" it was the same old story in many ways, wigan ripped us apart down the flanks time and time again, and playing some very good rugby for me, richards 4th was a treat IMO.

As the game went on I did start to be realistic, wigan looked so good with or without the ball it wouldnt have mattered who played where, who was coach or if Bell was playing or if Bosc had played regardless Wigan were hot.

They did alright. Tactics spot on, but to say they were fantastic is stretching it. They never had to get out of second gear, so we didn't see whether they were fantastic or not.

We, on the other hand, were utterly abysmal. And now I'm about to relive it all for a report....

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John what were to two incidents in which the touch judge intervened, i didnt see a lot myself, wondered if you saw more as it happened from that side?

Both involved Casey McGuire, the first was a high shot on Gleeson, the second a grapple tackle on S Tomkins (I think), wrestling him to the floor by the head.

Fantastic in terms of the season so far. The fact that we didn't have to get out of 2nd gear and still managed to rack up 58 points AND nil Catalans is a superb effort.

Oh, come on. You can make all the excuses you want but the fact is Catalans should be aspiring to play at that level. It was the same Wigan team that a weaker (on paper) Catalans put 40 points past last season and lost to by two points away, the only difference playing wise was Deacon.

And a new coach that's actually getting the players to perform to their potential.

Not much to think about, he's 100% bob on

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make.

you were saying its not wigan that were good its catalans that were poor, I think it was a bit of both.

Didn't see a lot of either incident. One looked a bit of a grapple, maybe.

The point I was articulately making was that we don't know if Wigan were any cop or not because they didn't have to do much in the face of such paltry opposition.

I was replying to headhunters post

What point are you trying to make?


'Much cop' or not is subjective. Personally speaking the first 40 minutes were as good as I've seen from any team for many a year. Over the moon with the way we've started this season but recognising there's a long way to go.

I don't care about Wigan. If a weaker (on paper) Catalans could score 40 points against the same team last year and the only difference is a new coach, then surely that says a lot about the Catalans coaching set-up?

And/or the Wigan coaching set-up.

Yeah, except this discussion was not about Wigan at all other than that they have a coach that is getting the best out of the players and that this is clearly what Catalans are lacking, especially considering that they put 40 points past the same team last year so there are no issues with ability.

But the same coach was in charge then? So what was he doing then that he isnt now?

So it did have something to do with Wigan.

Catalans are awful. Now whether that's down to the players, Walters or a combination of the two I don't know, but they need to get it sorted soon.

Picking Kane Bentley



No, I think Greg Bird papered over a lot of cracks at the end of last year, and 8th was still a poor finish after the regular season, it wasn't a progressive year for the club at all and at no point did the team look like the coherent unit that it did under Potter, the style of play was more akin to 2006. The squad is more balanced this year, yet performances have been terrible.

Fair point. The Wigan tactics were spot on.

I think you make a lot of fair points there HH, allthough im not sure the squad looks more balanced, i feel we have too many back rowers, we've had them playing centre when we already had back rowers covering centre, we've had them playing hooker and we have had them playing prop.