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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"OK, here we go
OK, let's start at the beginning and add a little perspective...
The winds come in Perpignan usually for 2-3 days, they've been here for 3 weeks at least, this has a negative effect on the grass, twofold, 1- it dries out the soil and 2 it "burns" the grass (like the wind attacking your face non-stop for 3 weeks, its not gonna be a pretty sight)
The ground isn't owned by the club, and the club have no say as to who the ground keeper is, they've been trying to get rid of the current guy for 2 years, so have no control as to what happens on the field at all.
Because reparation work has been needed since the last friendly, the club has not trained on the pitch, but at the local university in the hope that the pitch will have had the correct groundworks done to it, these have not been carried out by the ground keeper.
On Friday after the referee arrived in France he attended the stadium to look at the pitch and deemed the game playable.
Now the pitch was 95% playable on Saturday, what has happened is the ground was deemed by the Catalans to be too hard, so the ground keeper watered the pitch on Friday night after the previous pitch inspection by Bentham, because the ground ws hard, the water 'pooled' in certain areas and overnight froze, there was no concern at the time as the ground keeper thought these would melt and disperse as the sun melted them. The main area of concern was a 20 metre square (ish) area under the main stand (Bonzom), this area of the pitch did not get any sunlight so did not melt. Every other area of the pitch was playable.
It was at this time (around lunchtime) that Trent Robinson called Hull to say that he had concerns over the pitch, both coaches and CEO's attended a 2pm pitch inspection with the RFL officials and decided to call the game off. There was talk of taking it to the Aime Giral to play on Sunday morning but their pitch was worse with the ice than Brutus.
It is harsh on the fans that travelled over, but I got to the stadium yesterday at 1:30pm and left at 8:30pm after the club had looked at all options available to them. Yes it is a pain in the backside, but after speaking to the RFL today, it is clear that they feel all three parties were a victim of circumstances.
The ironic thing is that the pitch is probably harder in July and August than it was yesterday, it was just the pooling of the water that froze and didn't defrost that caused the issue. I have sent some pictures of the affected areas to the League Express, you will be able to see that the pitch was too dangerous to play on.
Hope that helps some of you to understand the reasonings as to why the game was called off, and for the record, one of the RFL bylaws states that the game can only be called off in the 24 hours preceeding the kick-off time.'"
Thanks for taking the time to post this explaination CMR |
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It is something of an irony that the only game to be called off in Super League is in the south of France
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| Quote ="John_D"It is something of an irony that the only game to be called off in Super League is in the south of France'"
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Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"OK, here we go
OK, let's start at the beginning and add a little perspective...
The winds come in Perpignan usually for 2-3 days, they've been here for 3 weeks at least, this has a negative effect on the grass, twofold, 1- it dries out the soil and 2 it "burns" the grass (like the wind attacking your face non-stop for 3 weeks, its not gonna be a pretty sight)
The ground isn't owned by the club, and the club have no say as to who the ground keeper is, they've been trying to get rid of the current guy for 2 years, so have no control as to what happens on the field at all.
Because reparation work has been needed since the last friendly, the club has not trained on the pitch, but at the local university in the hope that the pitch will have had the correct groundworks done to it, these have not been carried out by the ground keeper.
On Friday after the referee arrived in France he attended the stadium to look at the pitch and deemed the game playable.
Now the pitch was 95% playable on Saturday, what has happened is the ground was deemed by the Catalans to be too hard, so the ground keeper watered the pitch on Friday night after the previous pitch inspection by Bentham, because the ground ws hard, the water 'pooled' in certain areas and overnight froze, there was no concern at the time as the ground keeper thought these would melt and disperse as the sun melted them. The main area of concern was a 20 metre square (ish) area under the main stand (Bonzom), this area of the pitch did not get any sunlight so did not melt. Every other area of the pitch was playable.
It was at this time (around lunchtime) that Trent Robinson called Hull to say that he had concerns over the pitch, both coaches and CEO's attended a 2pm pitch inspection with the RFL officials and decided to call the game off. There was talk of taking it to the Aime Giral to play on Sunday morning but their pitch was worse with the ice than Brutus.
It is harsh on the fans that travelled over, but I got to the stadium yesterday at 1:30pm and left at 8:30pm after the club had looked at all options available to them. Yes it is a pain in the backside, but after speaking to the RFL today, it is clear that they feel all three parties were a victim of circumstances.
The ironic thing is that the pitch is probably harder in July and August than it was yesterday, it was just the pooling of the water that froze and didn't defrost that caused the issue. I have sent some pictures of the affected areas to the League Express, you will be able to see that the pitch was too dangerous to play on.
Hope that helps some of you to understand the reasonings as to why the game was called off, and for the record, one of the RFL bylaws states that the game can only be called off in the 24 hours preceeding the kick-off time.'"
just a question - according to the l'Independant this morning on
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C'est à ce niveau que réside le coeur du problème. Comment imaginer un seul instant, avec les conditions climatiques actuelles, arroser une pelouse la veille et le jour même d'un match ? C'est pourtant ce qui s'est produit ce week-end, du côté de Brutus
this says that actually the pitch was watered the day before the game as well as the morning of the game ?
this can't be true, can it ? I mean, can anyone be so stupid ?
the galling thing is that the LER game at UTCv Montpellier game went ahead without a problem (no watering involved) as well as the game at Limoux v FCL where conditions were cold and sub-zero but still went ahead without the pitch being watered of course.
I just hope that the Catalan club will make it up to those Hull fans who wasted their money in some way - it's the least they can do surely ? |
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Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"OK, here we go
OK, let's start at the beginning and add a little perspective...
The winds come in Perpignan usually for 2-3 days, they've been here for 3 weeks at least, this has a negative effect on the grass, twofold, 1- it dries out the soil and 2 it "burns" the grass (like the wind attacking your face non-stop for 3 weeks, its not gonna be a pretty sight)
The ground isn't owned by the club, and the club have no say as to who the ground keeper is, they've been trying to get rid of the current guy for 2 years, so have no control as to what happens on the field at all.
Because reparation work has been needed since the last friendly, the club has not trained on the pitch, but at the local university in the hope that the pitch will have had the correct groundworks done to it, these have not been carried out by the ground keeper.
On Friday after the referee arrived in France he attended the stadium to look at the pitch and deemed the game playable.
Now the pitch was 95% playable on Saturday, what has happened is the ground was deemed by the Catalans to be too hard, so the ground keeper watered the pitch on Friday night after the previous pitch inspection by Bentham, because the ground ws hard, the water 'pooled' in certain areas and overnight froze, there was no concern at the time as the ground keeper thought these would melt and disperse as the sun melted them. The main area of concern was a 20 metre square (ish) area under the main stand (Bonzom), this area of the pitch did not get any sunlight so did not melt. Every other area of the pitch was playable.
It was at this time (around lunchtime) that Trent Robinson called Hull to say that he had concerns over the pitch, both coaches and CEO's attended a 2pm pitch inspection with the RFL officials and decided to call the game off. There was talk of taking it to the Aime Giral to play on Sunday morning but their pitch was worse with the ice than Brutus.
It is harsh on the fans that travelled over, but I got to the stadium yesterday at 1:30pm and left at 8:30pm after the club had looked at all options available to them. Yes it is a pain in the backside, but after speaking to the RFL today, it is clear that they feel all three parties were a victim of circumstances.
The ironic thing is that the pitch is probably harder in July and August than it was yesterday, it was just the pooling of the water that froze and didn't defrost that caused the issue. I have sent some pictures of the affected areas to the League Express, you will be able to see that the pitch was too dangerous to play on.
Hope that helps some of you to understand the reasonings as to why the game was called off, and for the record, one of the RFL bylaws states that the game can only be called off in the 24 hours preceeding the kick-off time.'"
just a question - according to the l'Independant this morning on
www.lindependant.fr/2012/02/13/u ... 116732.php
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C'est à ce niveau que réside le coeur du problème. Comment imaginer un seul instant, avec les conditions climatiques actuelles, arroser une pelouse la veille et le jour même d'un match ? C'est pourtant ce qui s'est produit ce week-end, du côté de Brutus
this says that actually the pitch was watered the day before the game as well as the morning of the game ?
this can't be true, can it ? I mean, can anyone be so stupid ?
the galling thing is that the LER game at UTCv Montpellier game went ahead without a problem (no watering involved) as well as the game at Limoux v FCL where conditions were cold and sub-zero but still went ahead without the pitch being watered of course.
I just hope that the Catalan club will make it up to those Hull fans who wasted their money in some way - it's the least they can do surely ? | |
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Where do we fit a re-run in? During the blank weekend for the England v Exilia game?
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| Quote ="John_D"Where do we fit a re-run in? During the blank weekend for the England v Exilia game?'"
looks like, or a vacant cup weekend if both teams are knocked out maybe ? |
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Maybe this summer. So the England v Exiles date works
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this would still allow a French international with effectively a 'B' side playing against someone like Scotland or someone of similar level a bit like a 'LER Select' side ?
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| Quote ="catalawayoflife"Maybe this summer. So the England v Exiles date works'"
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Dredging this up from the bowels of history
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well I hope there's a friggin' game this time !
drove six friggin' hours for sweet FA only to arrive at the GB with no speccies - I thought to myself 'there's something not right about this ?'........(perceptive or what ?)
some friggin' council plonker decided he should water the friggin' pitch at 0800 hrs on the day of the match in friggin' freezin' conditions - not only had I just booked into the friggin' hotel but drove straight back another six friggin' hours - boy was I friggin' annoyed !!!!!
not that I bear a grudge or anything ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"not that I bear a grudge or anything ?'"
That much is obvious.
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| Quote ="John_D"That much is obvious.
What's the likelihood of a repeat postponement then?'"
if there is a postponement I will personally blow up the new stand..... 
that's after I have executed the pathetic groundstaff with a Kalachnikov AK47 
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| Quote ="sanjunien"(hope it's Ganson !)'"
It's Uncle Thierry |
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Zut alors ! 
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Fef banned for 2 matches for that gentle stroke of M-Mon's chin on Monday night
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deserved it - lucky to stay on the field
he was doing ok this season kerbing his aggression and helping the team so it's no great loss to the squad - speaking with one of the SL refs before one of the early games at the GB this season he openly called Ferriol the 'penalty machine' so if that's what the refs are thinking then he's on dangerous ground with that kind of reputation going around - I don't think Trent will be unduly worried about losing him
should be his last season at the Cats - hopefully Mikael Simon will be given the chance to prove himself, he was really down a couple of weeks ago when not even in the 19 for the Wakey game really fearing for his future - nice guy and a good player who can actually control his discipline
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So with Fef suspended and Cardace picking up a knock against Wire, the squad is:
Greeny, Blanch, Pryce, Dureau, Ian Hendo Henderson, Bulldozer, Sir Steve Menzies Campbell, Mounis, Traffic Warden, JPB, EEEEELLLOOOIIIIIIII, Millard, Bousquet, JaJa, Paea, Baitieri, Duport, Fisherman, Pala.
Not seen Hull's yet
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Oh, here we are:
Aspinwall, T-Bris, Crooks, Heremaia, Horne, Green, Lynch, Manu, J Cunningham, Bowden, Pitts, Russell, Seymour, The Human Tattoo, Turner, Westerman, I Wish I Could Be Like Liam Watts (fa fa fa faa faa faa faa fa), Whiting, Yeaman of the Guard.
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Ever noticed how any thread featuring one of the Hull clubs descends into internecine bickering?
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| Quote ="John_D"So with Fef suspended and Cardace picking up a knock against Wire, the squad is:
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Not seen Hull's yet'"
interesting to see Bousquet back in the squad to replace DF - unfortunately no place for Mickeal Simon who will be a very unhappy bunny - he is pretty disconsulate not being in the squad at the moment and this will not help his confidence
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| Quote ="sanjunien"Sebastien Raguin = Traffic Warden ? - lost me there JD'"
His day job when he was at Toulouse.
Mickael Simon - yes. I'm a big fan of the lad. He looks like the epitome of a modern front-row forward to me, i.e. big, strong, mobile and built like a brick privy. |
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| Quote ="John_D"His day job when he was at Toulouse.
Mickael Simon - yes. I'm a big fan of the lad. He looks like the epitome of a modern front-row forward to me, i.e. big, strong, mobile and built like a brick privy.'"
really ? didn't know that ....i'll deffo be abusive to him later on ( from a distance of course...)
don't know what the problem with Mickael is exactly - seems like a punishment of some kind
he says he's fit as he can be but needs match practice - Trent did a similar thing with Eloi by leaving him out of the squad for no apparent reason but all it seems to have done is weaken his confidence IMO - EP isn't the player he was last season or at the beginning of this season, I don't get TRs tactics here....
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