Might I suggest some cheese to go with your sour grapes sir?

to get into SL in 2 years time , we are nowhere near ready , and to get stuck at the bottom of SL getting hammered every week would see the end of the club , for us to get into SL we need to be as strong fan wise as at least Widnes but nearer Cas when they were in NL 1 , wakey along with most other SL clubs are losing hundreds of thousands if not millions per season , you can keep it for the moment

However for you to suggest that Barrow are more ready than Widnes just because they put together a good squad last season tells me all i need to know about your non SL club knowledge , I dont think Fev are or will be ready for a long time either

You suggest Barrow because they won the GF last season , well if you want to change the RFL's policy on SL entry back to P and R every season , I dont think you will find many outside SL disagreeing with you , but somehow I dont think you will find many IN SL agreeing with you , why would that be , do you think ?

Wakey are on borrowed time , if they dont sort out the stadium they will be dropping out sooner or later , and believe me , once you're out , its a hell of a lot harder to get back in with franchising

no sour grapes. Why would you think that? I have no angst with the wakey club all. Read ALL of my posts!
But as starbug suggests, until that nice drawing of a stadium becomes something more that some pr exercise, wakey remain in the brown stuff!
That's not sour grapes. It's my take on the issue. If you don't agree fair do's. I really don't care either way. We'll see things differently. The rfl will prove one way or another if you're right or not..

In my book constantly predicting doom for a particular club, just a little too much for it to be purely indifferent, is a case for suspicion of sour grapes. Surely as a fan of the game, rather than a person with another agenda, you would wish us luck in our bid for SL. I certainly hope Cas get their ground, whether we do or not.

Anyway not that it matters, as you say, we'll wait to hear from the RFL/Rodney Walker and then (touch wood) I will be proved right.

I wish all clubs success and wish there was free movement between the divisions so that the entire game can have an opportunity to play at the highest level. As stated many times, I have no angst with Wakey, and if you get a new stadium, I wish you well, and that's regardless of Fev's position. Just as I do Leigh and Widnes et al.
However, it is my opinion based on info given to me, that it won't happen and given Wakey's proposals, failed promises and woeful attempts at upgrading their facilities over the last 10 years, it's an opinion that I'm fairly entrenched in. This isn't sour grapes, it's an opinion. One that some Wakey fans don't want to hear and one that will attract an opposing point of view. I will live with that. Time will tell etc.

As a passionate believer in P/R I do firmly believe that Barrow should have the option of promotion. If they don't feel they are ready then they could pass the opportunity over to the runners up. Whether anyone in SL agrees with me or not is irrelevant. As per usual everyone will act of their own self interests, that's just human nature.

Wakey are on no more borrowed time than Cas or Salford. Where probably more safer than them 2 teams on the current franchise scoring system due to our our average finishing position been higher. We are certainly more secure than that shambles outfit playing out off Wrexham.

I actually agree with most of that post! Salfords geography gives them a few points ahead of Wakey/Cas. In my opinion, Wakey's current dilapidated stadium is the worst of the 3 and thus puts them favs for exclusion. Would that be right??? No it wouldn't, but this is the RFL we're on about.
Your point about P+R is exactly the point I've been banging on about for years. Any club winning the right for promotion to SL needn't take it if they're not ready and perhaps a cash reward to re-inforce their case at a later stage, should they win it again, would be a viable alternative.
e.g. If Fev won this years GF, we're nowhere near ready. Accept say 100k, and build the business profile and infra-structure of the club. Try again the following year. Does that not make sense??
Your point about Wrexham - well, what can I say?? Shambles, the whole sorry story. But again, the RFL's ineptitude shines right through.
You asked in an earlier post if I was bitter? Yes I am! Not with Wakey, but the RFL/SL and the whole sorry mess that twit and tw@ have made of our game.

As far as I am concerned Barrow should be playing yourselves at BV next season and either Wrexham or Salford should be gracing the LSV , no problem and I'd doubt you would find many if any on this board disagreeing with me , Though to actually save all the clubs outside SL the RFL have to promise a promoted club at the end of each licence period , if they dont we are all finished , and unfortunatley that might result in your club suffering something they have managed to avoid with on field performance

Send you e mail to the RFL

Ay up m8 who do you and Rodanay think your talking to "fair lads" he was very naughty saying what he did. He knows full well Rovers never mentioned going to your ghost stadium, he sad it because he is trying to make it more of a community stadium. I would be very worried by that if i were you, why did he say it?
That stadium will never happen and you will be playing us in a few years, and once again our crowds will beat yours

Our crowds averaged 1800 last season. the reason there not higher is because we arnt in the top flight and a lot of people are dissillusioned about what the RFL have done regards P+R

I've been following this thread for a while now and sense underlying bitterness towards Wakey,most of you hoping/wishing us to fall from grace have a fifty fifty chance of getting your wish.
As for Rotherham fev fan,pure drivel you're spouting there mate,do you really think guys in higher places are gonna let slip what's happening in two years time?Nah me neither!
For what it's worth here's my take on it.
It's a 50/50 call,if we get building started we're in and probably will be for quite some time,if we don't and this project collapses we're kicked out and it's lower league rugby with you lads for the forseeable future!!!Simple,no whispers in the taproom RFF,just cold facts.
Hope that helps!

We'll see owd co_ck! We'll see. I've just read my posts again and I'm quite happy with what I have written!
If you survive - I'm talking boll_ox!
If you don't - well, we'll discuss that then eh???


and I have no more bitterness to wakey than I have any other club inb SL!!!! and If SL went belly up, I wouldn't give a toss!!! Now that IS my bitterness showing through!

Saw what you did there,very good!!C ck.

Sorry missed the owd off.

eh?

One of Wakey Cas Salford, if the RFL have the balls and we all no they struggle at times, maybe Celtic won't last the season out if they can't fund themselves. It all depends on stadiums.

I don't see what Halifax would bring thats "extra" to the party but we'll see (good club good fans by the way)

aye they are.
But widnes and leigh have top gaffs and wouldn't disgrace the league given an extended run.
Can't see barrow being ready other than having a chairman wi deep pockets.
Likewise, top fans up there!

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ja ... o-12-teams interesting! I didn't see this coming!!

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/ja ... o-12-teams interesting! I didn't see this coming!!

Any team that is deemed to have inappropriate stadia will simply up sticks and squat somewhere else for a while, aka Crusaders. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that but it's pointless having such open ended criteria.

aye maybe so.
But then if the agenda is to reduce the league to 12 teams, there'd be no need. Wakey wouldn't make the 12!

If it went on last season I'd keep them over Bradford. Or maybe that's just my bias

Interesting thought! So would I but as my opinion counts for Jack, we'll have to see what the RFL have thought up!!

Thats not been the case in the past though, time and time again they have both struggled and while its easy to say they wouldn't disgrace, its harder to actually do that say.

Difficult subject IMO because i don't wish to seem anti Wid/Leigh/Hal, all good clubs with good fans.

On the subject of 12 teams, will anyone come up or will they just cut back whats in already, they surely won't ditch 3 and add 1 will they?

i believe they are contracturally committed to giving a franchise to a championship club. So yes, 3 down if they go to 12.

A wakey fan having a go at featherstone over attendances!