If he wasn't then Cheeky Charlie's got the perfect avatar to help fcimp develop his knowledge.

I think you're being obtuse here. The point being made is that, over the last 144 or so years, FC have been the bigger club. Within that there will have been years when Rovers have had bigger attendances and won more trophies, e.g. some years in the 80s, but this is exactly the point fcimp was making.

Take it, spread the word

So always in our shadow was factually incorrect.
Thanks for confirming it.

Just an exaggeration. A couple of years out of 144 is a pretty low percentage.

A bit like fc's completion rate, but hey ho, they are overated too!

Would that be the last couple

"If you see it, play it" another Agarism. Who needs a gameplan with genius like that?

Great pm off fcimp



fcimp ". [iWhat bugs me more is how other teams are so poor this year (including ourselves) to allow you to be in this position. Saying that, when we were at the top we were miles better than you are now and we had to be, the competition was a lot tougher with the likes of very good Leeds, Bradford and Wigan sides breathing down your necks[/i"

All true.

TBF to him, he does sort of have a point, even if it's somewhat exaggerated. When we got to the GF, Saints were at the height of their powers in a double year when they won the BBC Sports Team of the Year.

[i"St Helens 26 Hull 4: Anderson raises a toast to team of all the talents

St Helens confirmed their dominance of the domestic season by showing that they are the closest thing the Super League era has produced to a side without weak links. Severely tested by Hull throughout the first half, Daniel Anderson's side eventually ran out convincing winners of their fourth Grand Final at a packed Old Trafford on Saturday.

The winning margin might have been wider than in 1999, 2000 and 2002, but this was far from easy for Saints. Just as when they met Huddersfield in the Cup final, they were challenged sufficiently to show all aspects of their excellence.

"We made some massive defensive plays out there," said Anderson. "Hull could have scored three or four tries. I can't speak highly enough of this group of players. They've only lost four games all season and that was by one, two, three and four points."[/i

In addition, Leeds were excellent in parts for that season with Bradford starting to decline but still a force.

This year's Saints are nowhere near their 2006 standard, and although Leeds are probably slightly better than they were in 2006 they're not in Saints' class at that time. This in no way discredits what Rovers have achieved though, you can only play what's in front of you. The competition overall is closer this year and the standard right at the top is lower. What this does serve to illustrate though is the massive decline in FC's playing performances. From top 2 in a better standard comp, now bottom of the pile in a weaker overall standard.

as i posted before on another topic, went to headingly on wednesday night, it looked like the best game plan agar had come up with all season, played some good stuff, craig hall played well!

Shame it wasnt Agars game plan, it was plonky Harrys

Absolute trype.

The quality of imports has improved significantly since then and there are far better younger players coming through.

Not at all. Saints in that year were a country mile better than anything on show this year, arguably the best team in the SL era, doing the double and losing only 4 games by margins of 4 points or less. Leeds pushed them close for 2/3 of the season though and we managed to get 2nd off the back of a 13 match winning run. Bradford, the defending champions were no slouches and had Hape, Vainikolo, Vagana, Fielden (when he was still good, touted as the best prop in the world). You may say that the current Saints team, Leeds, Rovers and Huddersfield are better than the top 4 that year, that's your opinion, but I strongly disagree.

The fact that FC have been so utterly terrible all year and were still within a couple of wins of making the play-offs speaks for itself IMO.

How would you know you're relative newcomers. Most of your SL experience in the last 10 years has been what you've seen on the telly.

4 Wins if based on the previous format of Top 6.

Surely that means we deserve even more credit then for leaving you guys trailing?

Rubbish

And you still fail to be competitive

Only the last 2 years, what about the previous 5?

So that would be two games a weekend then which is 4 teams a week.
Now I know you enjoy talking bullsh** but even for you thats a doozy.

Not forgetting that it was a 12 team competition so you would also have to take away the 8 points that Hull picked up against Salford and Celtic.

Stop living in the past - you always had a go at us for doing the same sometimes.