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| Dudley, Hessle rover, dum-dum, Sandra The Terrorist
OK folks may be my way of making a point was not too clever.
However it seems strange that you all find the time to attack me yet make no comment on SirStan’s racist comments.
“The dodgy frog whose name I can’t remember”. "Cheese eating surrender monkey”. We will have two Frenchmen in our team next season and I am sure they will wonder about the support they will receive from you if they read this.
I thought we were supposed to be HKR supporters. Not much support expressed in those two comments which by omission you seem to agree with, is there?
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Dudley, Hessle rover, dum-dum, Sandra The Terrorist
OK folks may be my way of making a point was not too clever.
However it seems strange that you all find the time to attack me yet make no comment on SirStan’s racist comments.
“The dodgy frog whose name I can’t remember”. "Cheese eating surrender monkey”. We will have two Frenchmen in our team next season and I am sure they will wonder about the support they will receive from you if they read this.
I thought we were supposed to be HKR supporters.Not much support expressed in those two comments which by omission you seem to agree with, is there?'"
It's not racist, It's an ethnic slur - There's a difference.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"It's not racist, It's an ethnic slur - There's a difference.'"
That's what I was trying to point out. It is considered racist by society at large. However let's not get into semantics You think that it is ok then to make ethnic slurs about our players because you don't consider it racist?
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| Quote ="Keiththered"That's what I was trying to point out. It is considered racist by society at large. However let's not get into semantics You think that it is ok then to make ethnic slurs about our players because you don't consider it racist?'"
It's not considered racist by anyone, except for you.
Jock, Frog, Flip, Yank etc are all used by many people, all over the world. It's deeply unfair to label these people as racists.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"It's not considered racist by anyone, except for you.
Jock, Frog, Flip, Yank etc are all used by many people, all over the world. It's deeply unfair to label these people as racists.'"
Cheese eating surrender monkey?
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Cheese eating surrender monkey?'"
Nothing wrong with that. They eat cheese and they have been known to surrender in certain situations. Seems to be true to me.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Cheese eating surrender monkey?'"
You see, I've even got you using the phrase now. There's hope for you yet, that's if you have a tall enough step ladder to climb down from your horse.
Call me racist as often as you like, I won't get offended, as those who know me, both in the real world, and on here know that it's a load of bovine excrement.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Nothing wrong with that. They eat cheese and they have been known to surrender in certain situations. Seems to be true to me.'"
Correct, and the monkey reference is of course due to our misguided friends in Hartlepool.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Cheese eating surrender monkey?'"
Guilty of stereotyping.
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| Quote ="SirStan"You see, I've even got you using the phrase now. There's hope for you yet, that's if you have a tall enough step ladder to climb down from your horse.
Call me racist as often as you like, I won't get offended, as those who know me, both in the real world, and on here know that it's a load of bovine excrement.'"
If you think I am on my high horse so be it. If you and others cannot see what is wrong with what you wrote than we will have to agree to disagree. End of.
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| End of what?
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| Just read your rant back and tell me honestly you don't feel a bit of a tit.
You say we're all meant to be supporters, exactly, that's why I come on here, to read about Rovers not to be given a penny lecture by the PC brigade, who if they insist on doing so could at least have the decency to post their own views instead of some halfd cut and paste job from a dodgy online 'encyclopaedia '
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| Quote ="Keiththered"If you think I am on my high horse so be it. If you and others cannot see what is wrong with what you wrote than we will have to agree to disagree. End of.'"
It's about as wrong as the French referring to us as "les rosbifs", you dafty sausage.
Quote ="SirStan"End of what?'"
I think it was (in it's loosest sense) a debate.
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| Wonder where Martin Kennedy's going?
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| Attempting to get this thread back on track. . .
My amended starting 17 (for the opener) based on the squad we know:
1 Josh Mantellato
2 Kenny Sio
3 Darrell Goulding
4 Ben Cockayne
5 Kieron Dixon
6 Maurice Blair
7 Albert Kelly
8 Mick Weyman
9 Keal Carlile
10 Adam Walker
11 Kev Larroyer
12 Tyrone McCarthy
13 Jamie Donaldson
Bench: Ryan Bailey, James Green, John Boudebza, Jordan Cox
NB: Graeme Horne unlucky not to make the 17 – I’ve gone for size and bulk - and selected Josh Mantellato at full back based on his performances for Italy
Have to say the depth of SL experience in the squad is thin, mind you it was deep last season and look where it ended up!
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"Attempting to get this thread back on track. . .
My amended starting 17 (for the opener) based on the squad we know:
1 Josh Mantellato
2 Kenny Sio
3 Darrell Goulding
4 Ben Cockayne
5 Kieron Dixon
6 Maurice Blair
7 Albert Kelly
8 Mick Weyman
9 Keal Carlile
10 Adam Walker
11 Kev Larroyer
12 Tyrone McCarthy
13 Jamie Donaldson
Bench: Ryan Bailey, James Green, John Boudebza, Jordan Cox
NB: Graeme Horne unlucky not to make the 17 – I’ve gone for size and bulk - and selected Josh Mantellato at full back based on his performances for Italy
Have to say the depth of SL experience in the squad is thin, mind you it was deep last season and look where it ended up!'"
I believe Aaron ollett will be in there somewhere seemed a excellent player before his injury and if he comes back stronger he will be pushing for a back row spot , only my opinion of course
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| Cockayne at centre? Why? I had the "pleasure" of witnessing his performance there at The Stoop in 2008 when Jake Webster was withdrawn late, he was a nightmare and should never play there again.
Salter needs to be played there, he will be worth it in the long run.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Cockayne at centre? Why? I had the "pleasure" of witnessing his performance there at The Stoop in 2008 when Jake Webster was withdrawn late, he was a nightmare and should never play there again.
Salter needs to be played there, he will be worth it in the long run.'"
I don't like Charlie at full back, tried to accommodate him, and have reservations about Liam Salter; good defender but lacks an attacking edge, his played:tries ratio is appalling for a centre.
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| Did decent enough on the wing for Wakefield, if starting in our line up, why not there. Looks like we have versatile players in the buckling who can switch position. Personally, I would have him on the bench covering at hooker and back line.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Did decent enough on the wing for Wakefield, if starting in our line up, why not there. Looks like we have versatile players in the buckling who can switch position. Personally, I would have him on the bench covering at hooker and back line.'"
Agree with all that ^
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| The only thing worse than Cockayne at centre would be Cockayne at hooker. Do you not remember his attempts to play there under Morgan? His dummy half passing was akin to clay pigeon shooting.
He's a winger who can cover at full back.
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| Think you're being a bit selective Stan. Cockayne had to fill in at centre one season (2010?) when Webster got injured & he was very good. Probably the longest run he had in one position since 2007 & one of his best seasons for us imo.
Having said that I don't think he'll be playing centre next season.
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| Quote ="SirStan"The only thing worse than Cockayne at centre would be Cockayne at hooker. Do you not remember his attempts to play there under Morgan? His dummy half passing was akin to clay pigeon shooting.
He's a winger who can cover at full back.'"
I agree passing is the weakest part of bens game,no timing at all,just tends to throw it in the general direction and hope,would be no good at hooker IMO.
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| i like the way any player at any club can be turned into a hooker(well according to said clubs fans) it doesnt happen with any other position
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